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Cut-off

Once again the list too long to be maintained (97 items). It is a time to cut-off again to 500 m or even 600 m to make it updateable. I will try to import existing data to Wikidata to avoid their loss during cut-off.--Jklamo (talk) 16:37, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

Cutted off to 600 m. Existing data were imported to Wikidata items.--Jklamo (talk) 07:36, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Dongting Lake Bridge Hangrui has open to public since Feb 1, 2018

Dongting Lake Bridge officially opened to public traffic in Feb 1 2018, it has a suspension span of 1480M, see http://news.163.com/18/0201/17/D9J0VMHC00018AOP.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.246.26.29 (talk) 06:35, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

The link and the image to the Dongting Lake Bridge are incorrect, the reference obviously points at the bridge with the 1480m span, the image and link are to a bridge with a 310m span. Can anyone fix? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.240.225.24 (talk) 13:24, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Planned and proposed section

That section is very "crystalballish". Some of the proposals are more likely visions. Not sure about the value-added of that section. As we already have extensive already section, I think we can rid of the planned and proposed section.Jklamo (talk) 08:42, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Please include the designers of the bridge!!

Right now I'm doing my Technology activity and I have to find out who designed the world's longest suspension bridge but I can't find the designer! What gives?! Maybe it's my eyes🧐 but I just can't find the designers of the bridge. If anyone knows the designers of the bridge please edit the page. Our teacher is very strict!!😬😔☹️😤 please help an 8th grader out guys Zukz 13 (talk) 16:50, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

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Longest bridge deck section

As there are multiple bridges with multiple suspension spans it may be useful to have a section for Longest bridge decks, like List of longest cable-stayed bridge spans#Longest cable-stayed bridge decks. Any objections? Jklamo (talk) 10:53, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

I am admittedly not too familiar with bridge decks, but if you want to add it, I wouldn't object. The formatting for this section in the article you reference is rather nice! Although perhaps do "Rank, name, length" to match the other sections of this article. Aza24 (talk) 01:09, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Changes

Sigh. Jklamo I'm trying to go through some of the Former featured lists and discussed with Epicgenius about the best way to do so with this list. We agreed that it was clear that the main span should not be in two different columns, one will suffice. Epicgenius also suggested that the addition of a total length column would be beneficial, since that is a defining characteristic of a bridge. Jklamo, do you really have some serious objection to this? Aza24 (talk) 07:57, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, it is better to discuss the page on its talk page and not somewhere else. In my humble opinion, it is a good idea to have only one column for a main span, but I do not like the new total length column. More columns mean more maintenance (and sourcing), also the total length number has only a small relevance due to different methodologies (counting/not counting approaches). Structural height or number of pylons may be more relevant, but as I said I prefer to not add any new column.Jklamo (talk) 08:07, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
@Jklamo: The only reason I didn't go to the talk page was because it seemed to be full of unanswered queries. But yes, I wasn't too attached to adding another column, and have no real issue avoiding to do so, the main change I thought was needed was the combination of the main span column, which we seem to agree on. I'll combine the columns and then delete the second column – after that I'll probably have go through the refs, thanks for your input here. Aza24 (talk) 22:03, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for your work with refs as well. It is your intention to bring the list back to the FL status? Jklamo (talk) 09:07, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
Indeed it is, I'll have to continue going through refs, which will be a slow process. Since there are no featured bridge lists I was looking at building lists for reference/precedent. The main thing I'm seeing in the 20 or so featured tallest building lists (such as List of tallest buildings in New York City) is that they order the columns "Rank, Name, Image" rather than "Image, Rank, Name". I personally think the "Rank, Name, Image" makes more sense, thoughts? Aza24 (talk) 09:14, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
I don't have any particularly strong opinion about that, "Image, Rank, Name" seems to be a standard in similar lists (List of longest cable-stayed bridge spans, List of longest arch bridge spans, List of highest bridges etc.), but "Rank, Name, Image" order makes sense as well. Jklamo (talk) 09:58, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
I had noticed that about other bridge articles, my thoughts were that usually a precedent is set at FL and since none of these lists are at FL, we have some leeway. The reason I'm agreeing with the tallest buildings articles is because in my mind it makes sense for the rank to be the first column, just ingenuity-wise, and the name of the bridge to be the second, since the name is more of the item in question than the image, if that makes sense. Aza24 (talk) 01:13, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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