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Additional medieval Welsh King list article

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This article has been inspired by other Celtic nations' articles; List of High Kings of Ireland, Legendary kings of Scotland, List of legendary rulers of Cornwall. Although it is a merger from the previous King of Wales article, please read Talk:King of Wales article page for a further explanation. If users have ideas or objections, please use talk page. Cltjames (talk) 23:11, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cltjames: I'm afraid this article is ringing alarm bells for me, and I've given it a {{disputed}} tag. While the article title is List of legendary rulers of Wales, the lede treats King Camber as a historical figure (he wasn't) and Cambria as "a sub-kingdom of the Kingdom of Britain" in the Iron Age. But see the lede of the article Cambria: "The term was not in use during the Roman period (when Wales had not come into existence as a distinct entity) or the early medieval period ... The term Cambria is first attested in Geoffrey of Monmouth in the 12th century as an alternative to [Britannia and Wallia]". "The Celts established Wales, England, and Scotland as the countries of Great Britain" is another dubious statement, and the entire "Establishing the Kingdom of Cambria (Wales)" section is pseudohistory (all from Geoffrey of Monmouth, I think) written as if it were historical fact. Also, the title and the scope don't match as the article begins with legendary figures and ends with historical ones. Ham II (talk) 07:24, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]