Talk:List of kanji by stroke count

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Massive changes

This list is quite useless in its present form. It lists a couple hundred apparently randomly chosen kanji, some of them under incorrect stroke counts. I'm changing the article to focus solely on the Jōyō kanji, since at least that's something of a structure. For reference's sake, the kanji from the original that do not appear in the updated list are 丨, 丶, 丿, 乚, 亅,　岡,　黑, 黃, and 櫻. (黑, however, is just a variant of 黒, which does appear.)

The new list keeps to the order of the Jōyō kanji list; kanji of the same stroke count should appear in the order they do on that page.

The dictionary used in compiling this list is ISBN 4-385-13379-4.

Lastly, some random statistics about the Jōyō kanji:

Stroke count	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	21	22	23
Number of kanji	2	12	28	69	93	108	145	185	176	202	196	199	145	107	105	68	34	33	19	10	6	2	1

Kanji count: 1945 (thank goodness!)
Average stroke count: 10.34
218.225.111.205 06:25, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your hard work. Bilge [T C] 11:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Small change

I have removed 世 from the list of four-stroke kanji because it also exists in the five-stroke kanji list. According to the wikionary that it links to, it should be five strokes. Feel free to replace it and remove the one in the four-stroke list if I am mistaken (I'm not fluent in Japanese) 129.78.64.101 (talk) 04:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Addition Requests

I'd like to request that this kanji: 汝 be added.16:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.231.243 (talk)

I request that 兎 the kanji for rabbit, which has 8 strokes, be added to the list. I don't know exactly were in the eight stroke section it would go, which is why I'm requesting the change. It can also be done in 7 strokes, but this does not seem to be the traditional amount. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.191.136.232 (talk) 09:35, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not request kanji which are not in the jōyō lists here. 兎 and 汝 are neither jōyō, nor part of the new candidate list, which is expected to enter into effect around march next year. Unauthorized 12:50, 16 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unauthorized (talk • contribs)

Hi hi again!　Is there any reason 伊 can't be added？　Why　this list only encompass jouyou kanji? Who made that rule?　11:29, 23 December 2009 (UTC)75.45.231.25 (talk)

Because they are extremely rare and only bloat the page. This page would be easier to organize and navigate if uncommon kanji are kept in a separate list. I feel that the place of such characters is in a separate page, like List of non-jōyō kanji by stroke count. There are over 12000 known kanji [1] and most of them are scarcely, if ever used in modern written text. It would be rather pointless to clutter this page with obscure information, when it's possible to organize them in a more convenient way. --Unauthorized 15:39, 29 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Unauthorized (talk • contribs)

Have 美 this one.Lucia Black (talk) 02:30, 4 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

More massive changes

Some 196 kanji were added to the Jōyō kanji list in 2010. Some were on the page already, but most were missing. I added the remainder, as well as some well known variations to the characters, which were listed on the Jōyō kanji article page. I wasn't sure about the order, so I added them as they are listed in the Jōyō kanji article. In a seperate edit I removed　the 5 Jōyō kanji which were removed in the 2010 revision: 匁, 脹, 勺, 錘 and 銑. Furthermore have removed the following 200 characters, which I don't believe belong here, as per the talk page. They don't because they (most of them) are listed here http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/3002_Kanji.svg as Jimmeiyō kanji. If they are to be included,the rest of the list should also be added.

亥 | 巴 | 允 | 杏 | 阿 | 伍 | 丑 | 卯 | 酉 | 辰 | 寅 | 巳 | 丞 | 凪 | 嶋 | 〇 | 也 | 々 | 匡 | 亦 | 宏 | 亨 | 杜 | 芹 | 芙 | 佑 | 甫 | 伽 | 冴 | 邑 | 玖 | 伶 | 欣 | 孟 | 怜 | 迪 | 茄 | 侑 | 茉 | 昂 | 茜 | 洸 | 柚 | 洵 | 昴 | 宥 | 哉 | 衿 | 柊 | 勁 | 胤 | 耶 | 奎 | 柾 | 祐 | 亮 | 郁 | 玲 | 洲 | 晋 | 晃 | 紘 | 秦 | 峻 | 倭 | 赳 | 隼 | 朔 | 凌 | 啄 | 悌 | 紗 | 倖 | 莞 | 晏 | 晟 | 恕 | 栞 | 莉 | 琢 | 琉 | 彬 | 皐 | 惟 | 惇 | 脩 | 彗 | 梓 | 萌 | 偲 | 彪 | 毬 | 眸 | 笙 | 晨 | 梧 | 紬 | 捺 | 袈 | 菖 | 絃 | 菫 | 崚 | 捷 | 斐 | 葵 | 禄 | 欽 | 惣 | 稀 | 渥 | 凱 | 絢 | 遥 | 瑛 | 皓 | 竣 | 琳 | 椋 | 靖 | 鳩 | 稔 | 楊 | 椿 | 蓮 | 瑞 | 禎 | 稜 | 嵯 | 蒼 | 暉 | 蒔 | 舜 | 詢 | 裟 | 滉 | 頌 | 楓 | 瑚 | 嵩 | 蓉 | 瑶 | 椰 | 嘉 | 綾 | 輔 | 肇 | 樺 | 魁 | 暢 | 鳳 | 綜 | 翠 | 榛 | 蔦 | 綺 | 緋 | 碧 | 爾 | 碩 | 綸 | 颯 | 瑳 | 毅 | 槻 | 蝶 | 蕉 | 遼 | 慧 | 黎 | 諄 | 誼 | 凜 | 熙 | 諒 | 齢 | 橘 | 鮎 | 黛 | 澪 | 蕗 | 燎 | 叡 | 薔 | 曙 | 霞 | 駿 | 嶺 | 鴻 | 檀 | 燦 | 鞠 | 雛 | 穣 | 麿 | 燿 | 鵬 | 蘭 | 鯛 | 巌 | 馨 | 耀 | 鷹 | 麟

90.184.6.41 (talk) 01:38, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Given the existence of the List of jōyō kanji article, I'm not actually sure whether or not there is a need for this article, other than to give a different overview. This page would probably be better off being be renamed "2,500 Most Common Kanji by Stroke Count" (Found here http://www.nihongo-pro.com/kanji-pal/list/strokes/1/frequency ordered by stroke count and frequency. Frequency is based on usage in news papers) and have sister article named "List of Uncommon Kanji by Stroke Count" for all the rest to be added to. (So they don't clutter up this page)90.184.6.41 (talk) 13:10, 30 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

: If we were to adopt this style, the kanji I have found to be lacking thus far are:

3 strokes: 士也已巳

4 strokes: 巴尹丑仇允壬

5 strokes: 卯

6 strokes: 伍此牟尖匡牝夷瓜吊舛弛

7 strokes: 宏孜辰芦吾呆芥亨芭宋杜牡芹杏苅佃芯芙佑宍甫抒伽坐冴呑杖汪邑酉牢杞

8 strokes: 函其炒苫姑奄欣孟祇狛帖宕杭杵或侠怜

9 strokes: 俣柏祐亮姜郁玲洲屏荏迦狐珂峙咸歪茗剃巷竿茜洸姚洒胚柚虐.

Also, there are quite a few jōyō kanji that are not on the top 2500 list. (probably should be included, though, since the 2500 list might be outdated) The ones I have found so far are:

5 strokes: 且丙旦氾

7 strokes: 冶汰肘弄沃

8 strokes: 宛采刹妬拉

9 strokes: 咽拶柵昧勃侶 90.184.6.41 (talk) 14:12, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think this page should not exist there. This is likely a Wiktionary page, not an enciclopedic one. --Zerabat (talk) 15:15, 1 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Addition of thirty-stroke kanji

I've added two kanji, 驫 and 鸞, which were previously not included. Previous discussions on this talk page indicate that non-jōyō kanji have been included on this list, at least in the past, so I'm not entirely sure what constitutes valid cause for inclusion or non-inclusion. As such, I've added these two hyōgai kanji. 76.10.184.83 (talk) 10:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]