Talk:List of iCarly episodes/Archive 2

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Number of episodes

Again, this edit warring over the number of episodes needs to stop. The movies currently say that they can be viewed as a special or a two-part episode. It can't be both, as that is what allows for this edit warring. A consensus needs to be reached on which way to view the movies. Ωphois 20:42, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay, the way I looked at this is that there were 45 episodes ordered for season two but nick split the season. For example if you look at iQuite iCarly, The production codes are 233-234 that is really two episodes. Also, 25 episodes for season 1, Now this were it gets tricky, about 20 episodes for season 2 if you count the movies as one episode and about 18 episodes for season 3. If you add that up you will get about 65 episodes for the series. Now They way I am looking at this is that 25 episodes for season 1, 25 episodes for season 2 and 20 episodes for season 3, wtitch add up to 70 episodes. Now dan mentioned that there were 70 episodes produced by the end of the season. I think hementioned this on one of his posts on danwarp.com or his twitter ( really don't want to go back and look through) By the look of things he is counting iGo to Japan as 3 episodes, iDate a bad boy as 2 as 2 episodes (normally going to be (2) seperate episodes, ifight Shelby Marx as 2 episodes, iQuite iCarly as 2 episodes, and iPshoo as two episodes (has not aired yet). So that adds up to 70 episodes. Checker Fred (talk) 21:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

If the basis of your argument is that they need to add up to a certain amount, then you will need to provide that source. Nickelodeon, iTunes, and MSN treat the movies as one singular thing, so following what reliable sources we have, the movies should probably be listed as one episode. Ωphois 21:18, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay Here http://danwarp.blogspot.com/2009/09/icarly-second-season-third-season-huh.html in this article he says that they just finished shooting their 70th episode (Augest 2009). So dan is counting the movies as two or three episodes. I just wonding could we maybe put another colum into the episodes charts and Have episode # counting the movies as one? On tvguide, msn, and iTunes I think it might be easier to put them as a combined episode. Checker Fred (talk) 14:59, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Him saying that they filmed 70 episodes doesn't mean anything. The season hasn't ended yet, so for all we know he could still be counting the movies as one episode. Ωphois 15:10, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

By this http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?v1=41&ti=26,41&Search%5FArg=iCarly&Search%5FCode=TALL&CNT=25&PID=yGzg1dnnsKVdGKRWuiyLwfVJ3IB8t&SEQ=20100108173340&SID=2 it looks like they are counting the episodes as two. I got this off from http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pwebrecon.cgi?ti=26,0&Search%5FArg=iCarly&Search%5FCode=TALL&CNT=25&PID=Lsj8AJf9CXakY8tNFUJeOuFvg7NUF&SEQ=20091206174518&SID=2. This is from http://starrymag.com/content.asp?ID=3909&CATEGORY=INTERVIEWs Nathan said in this interview he said this We're right in the middle of season two and we want to do forty-five episodes. (Now split for season 3. I looked on the net but can't seem to find it but one of the stars said that iGo to Japan and some other movies that the are really are like two episodes but combined. I belive it was nathan he said iGo to Japan was really 3 episodes put together. Okay I found one example http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76XyB1VSVOg&feature=related. He says this aaround 3:44 to 3:54Checker Fred (talk) 22:56, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

An actor's opinion on production isn't really reliable. However, the production codes on the copyright stuff would probably be a good basis for the episode numbering. Ωphois 23:16, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking could we have a third section for episode for episode #. Like iGot to Japan would be 29/30/31 or just have one spot Like iGot to Japan 29/30/31. I still trying to figure out how to work this. Let me know what you think. I am going to give this a try sometimeChecker Fred (talk) 20:54, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Here's what I was thinking this could look like

Season 2: 2008-2009

Wiki's episode #	Other sites episode #	episode # Not including movies Counting episodes as 2 or 3 seperate episodes	Title	Director	Writer(s)	Original Airdate	Code
26	26	26	"iSaw Him First"	Adam Weissman	Andrew Hill Newman & Steven Molaro	September 27, 2008 (2008-09-27)	204
In the second-season opener, Carly and Sam both develop a crush on Freddie's "nerd" pal, Shane. When they cannot decide who should date him, they decide to go by the first one to kiss him. They constantly try to kiss him, and always become unseccessful. Meanwhile, Spencer hires a repairman to fix the elevator, but the repairman proves to be no help at all, just a dancer. Because of the broken elevator, Shane accidentally falls from the iCarly studio to the basement when he finds out that Sam and Carly are competing for him. When the gang visits him at the hospital Carly kisses him. Guest Star: James Maslow as Shane
27	27	27	"iStage an Intervention"	Jonathan Goldstein	Karey Dornetto	October 4, 2008 (2008-10-04)	205
Spencer finds a Pak-Rat video game cabinet in a junkyard and becomes addicted to it, whilst procrastinating on a commissioned Labradoodle sculpture. To curb his addiction, Carly brings Sasha Striker, the top Pak-Rat player in the world, to compete against Spencer to defend her title as the world champion of Pak-Rat. Meanwhile, Freddie experiences a streak of "bad luck" after deleting and not forwarding a chain email, passing it off as a superstition. Guest Star: Lorena York as Sasha Striker
28	28	28	"iOwe You"	David Kendall	Jake Farrow	October 11, 2008 (2008-10-11)	206
Sam owes Carly and Freddie $526, so she gets a job to earn the money, and pay them back. Carly, Sam, and Freddie make a broadcast on iCarly to all their fans to donate money to Sam. However, they find out its illegal to solicit money over the internet. Meanwhile Spencer tries to impress an attractive single mom by helping her daughter sell fudgeballs, an equivalent to Girl Scout cookies, but two scouts stole Spencer's place at the market. Spencer comes up with the idea to send every iCarly fan who sent them money to send them fudgeballs. Carly and Freddie then hire someone to give the money they earned to Sam in a tip. At the end, everyone enjoys what Sam got with her money except Spencer.
29	29	29	"iHurt Lewbert"	Russ Reinsel	Ethan Banville	October 18, 2008 (2008-10-18)	207
Lewbert, Carly's doorman, is injured during an exploding muffin basket prank. Spencer suggests that Carly, Sam, and Freddie help him until he's back on his feet, but it is more easily said than done. When Freddie's mother takes over, she makes it look easy, but leaves the group extremely concerned. Freddie's mother and Lewbert fall in love. Meanwhile, while using a CB radio, Spencer upsets two truckers nicknamed Porkchop and Sledgehammer. Guest Stars: Ryan Ochoa as Chuck, Matt Willig as Sledgehammer, and Joel McCrary as Porkchop
TV–Movie	30	30,31,32	"iGo to Japan "	Steve Hoefer	Dan Schneider & Andrew Hill Newman	November 8, 2008 (2008-11-08)	201–203
The team, along with Spencer and Mrs. Benson, go to Japan when iCarly is nominated for the iWeb Awards. After an intensely dangerous ride (where they jump out of the plane but make it out safely), they are all sabotaged by 2 competing Web Show Nominee's; Kyoko and Yuki. Their cousin's wrap them up in seaweed in a massage room and lock the door while Kyoko and Yuki ditch the trio in the middle of nowhere and flee. Carly, Sam and Freddie must each return to Specner and Mrs. Benson -- in time for the iWeb Awards. Guest Star: Good Charlotte as themselves. Note: This can be shown as a three part episode or a movie with all parts together.
30	31	33	"iPie"	Roger Christiansen	Andrew Hill Newman	November 15, 2008 (2008-11-15) find the recipe. Meanwhile, Mrs. Benson's cousin's baby visits for a few days, making Freddie uneasy about it because his cousin always has a blank expression when she sees Freddie. Freddie tries finding a way to succeed in making his cousin laugh.
31	32	33	"iChristmas"	Steve Hoefer	Dan Schneider	December 13, 2008 (2008-12-13)	209
When Spencer makes an electromagnetic Christmas tree, the tree bursts into flames, which makes Carly furious at him because the fire mauled the presents Carly got for Spencer. Carly then wishes that Spencer was born normal. Carly's guardian angel, Mitch, makes this wish come true, surprising Carly. The next day, at school, Sam is absent, Freddie was never friends with Carly, and to make things worse -- Nevel Papperman is Carly's boyfriend. Carly questions Mitch about Sam's disappearance, and Carly is taken to the Juvenile Detention Center, where Sam is being held. Carly finds out that Sam was never her friend, either. Carly returns home and then is told that Mrs. Benson and Spencer are now engaged, making Carly angry at what the world has become. Carly then walks up the stairs and finds out that, because Sam and Freddie were never her friends, iCarly never existed, either. Carly begins to sob, realizing how much the world would change if Spencer was born normal. Mitch turns the world back, making Spencer born abnormal. Carly is now happy with the electromagnetic Christmas tree, and Carly, Sam, Freddie and Spencer have a good Christmas together in the end. Guest Stars: Danny Woodburn as Mitch and Reed Alexander as Nevel Papperman

Let me know. Checker Fred (talk) 21:06, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

iGuess i Don't Like You

Freddie is finally done with his injuires from the Toco Truck insident. Now he wants to see if Carly is really inlove with him. Carly says yes at first but she ends up saying no at the end of the episode when they have their last kiss. Because she doesn't like freddie in the way freddie likes her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.68.193.113 (talk) 02:11, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

but, how do u know that??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.60.37 (talk) 00:54, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

U know, i dont think thats a real episode because in "iWas a Pageant Girl" Freddie was OK. Besides, he wouldnt have his casts on 9 months later. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CrazyApple1998 (talk • contribs) 23:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

iEnrage Gibby

Just watched the episode...there was never really a fight. Spencer also did not use the newspaper to show he was alive, he used it to his advantage to make more money. BelieVerr (talk) 02:41, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Yah... some one needs to change that... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.170.60.37 (talk) 17:20, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Uncut "Save Your Life"

I see this is listed. Sources, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.78.70.183 (talk) 23:15, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

www.danwarp.com is the source. it is his official blog. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.187.69.81 (talk) 05:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Writer and Director For iSaved Your Life

The writers of the episode are Peter Tibbals & Eric Goldberg The director of the episode is Larry Lafood

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-NMgHlCQ5Q&feature=related

25 and :40)

ANONIMO

es:Anexo:Episodios de ICarly —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.160.51.38 (talk) 01:07, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Other Season 3 episodes

On iCarly.wiki.com/wiki they have these episodes

• iBeat the Heat - There is a heatwave, and everyone goes to the Shay's apartment to cool off - 242
• iPhyco(iCarly movie) - A girl names Nora invites the iCarly to her birthday party taking them hotage. - 243 and 244

The said that Nevel Pappermen will be in iPhyco.

Jon23812 (talk) 22:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)Jon23812

The are hidden on this site for now.Checker Fred (talk) 23:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

In iWon't cancel the show, when Spencer's phone rings, it is the same ringtone used in a Victorious episode, and is actually a part of her song "Make it Shine" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.190.12 (talk) 02:56, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Drake Bell's "Guest Appearence"

It says that Drake Bell makes a special guest appearence but, he wasn't on the show, he was only in a blooper. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.42.82.97 (talk) 04:06, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

SEASON 3 REF'S

References are still in the 'Season 3' section, though, most of the episodes premeired. Could someone take off one reference? --Wiki-World is in town! (talk) 15:18, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Numbering of Episodes

I think that iDate a Bad Boy, iFight Shelby Marx, iQuit iCarly, and iPhyco(when it gets put up) should count for two episodes episodes and iGo to Japan should count for 3 episodes, because in the Series Overview box it says season two has 25 episodes and if you look on the episode list it goes to 20. Also for season 3 it says 20 episodes but when all the episodes are put in it will go up to 18. Jon23812 (talk) 22:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Jon23812

Do you mean like put iQuite iCarly as part 1 and then part 2. or something like that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Checker Fred (talk • contribs) 23:37, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I did not even think about that. go ahead and do that. just make sure all the episodes add ep to 70.Checker Fred (talk) 10:41, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Season Four

• Ep. 1 - iGot a Hot Room

Spencer is building a Gummy Bear table lamp for the nightstand by Carly's bed since its Carly's birthday. But all goes downhill when Spencer asks Gibby to go up-stairs and to plug the lamp in and turn it on, starting a fire and destroying everything in Carly's room. Meanwhile, Gibby's grandfather who is a barber comes to the loft to give Spencer a haircut despite his eyesight problems. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MTCFAN (talk • contribs) 09:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

• Ep. 2 - iDo

Gordon Birch, a middle american man in his late 20's wants to come on iCarly and propose to his girlfriend "Jodi Flooger" who is a typical Middle-American looking Girl in her 20's, live on the iCarly Web cast. She says 'yes', so Gordon decides he wants to sing a song he wrote for Jodi. But Gordon stands there like a deer in headlights with the music going, so a panicked Gordon drops the microphone and runs off stage. But soon after, Jodi decides to marry Spencer —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.131.193.121 (talk) 17:48, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

The first two iCarly episodes for season 4. Sources: iiCarlyy.blogspot.com and TV.com

Jon23812 02:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)Jon23812

Neither of those are reliable sources. Ωphois 00:31, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

these episodes are backed up by show fax. you can make permanent links to show older websites using the Wayback Machine, or WebCite, although you do need to sign up to use that service.

See Wikipedia:Linkrot#Preventing link rot and support showfaxChecker Fred (talk) 00:49, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

On Showfax is #303 iSell Penny-Tees Show fax is very relable.All episodes that have already aired were once on there. I have heard accurate plots and subplots on showfax months before the episodes air.70.157.3.253 (talk) 18:30, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I was going to wait intill they started production on that episode. if you want you can add it or wait intill mid next week.Checker Fred (talk) 18:34, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks I'll go ahead and add it to get it out of the way. Tartar789 (talk) 00:07, 11 June 2010 (UTC) DO NOT ADD FAKE EPISODES, AIR DATES, AND/OR SUMMARYS. PUT THE EPISODES THAT ARE REVEALED OR YOU THINK THAT IS AN EPISODE ON THE TALK PAGE AND SOMEONE WILL CONFIRM IT IS OKAY TO ADD THE EPISODE. IF YOU DON'T IT WILL BE REVERTED —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.204.29.131 (talk) 09:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

There is an episode called iGet Pranky

Sources: http://danwarp.blogspot.com/2010/06/by-dan-schneider-icarly-executive.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jon23812 (talk • contribs) 16:56, 26 June 2010 (UTC) That episode is put in all of the episodes should be up to date with production. still not sure on iSell Penny-Tees. I will know more about that one when show fax realses another episode with a production code and that will confirm if it is an episode.Saylaveer (talk) 23:30, 3 July 2010 (UTC) {{editsemiprotected}} on http://danwarp.blogspot.com/2010/07/icarly-to-reveal-sams-mom.html dan reveled that 3 episodes have been filmed so far. I realy don't know if he he counting the ones that he has done already and didn't put in the count that was shooting yesterday and today. So I was wondering if you could remove iSell Penny-Tees in the season 4 section. The episode was taken off show fax only a few days latter. also can you remove the iGet Pranky production code intill I can confirm it better. aslo in the same episode Special Guest Star: Jane Lynch as Sam's mom. That episode needs a new section and is not part of that episode since they are filming it next week. I belvie i saw the title but I don't want to put it yet intill I can confirm it. thanks. Also iSell Penny-Tees could be an episode and dan just wrote that blog yesterday and didn't count it. let me know what you think if you decied not to remove that episode and just remove the guest star part.If not I will remove it when i get autoconfirmed.Saylaveer (talk) 01:13, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Dan says that he has filmed 3 episodes. He was filming iGet Pranky at the time he wrote the blog Jon23812 —Preceding undated comment added 21:43, 3 July 2010 (UTC).

That's what I was thinking. that's why I did not take it down. Also All the episode are up to date. We just need to find the title for sams mother episode.Saylaveer (talk) 11:24, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

 Not done. I'm sorry, but blogs are not considered reliable sources, per our policy. Salvio ( ^{Let's talk 'bout it!}) 01:34, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

http://nick-andmore.com is not a RS. Nickelodeon did'nt release anything. Confession0791 (talk) 22:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Why would Nickelodeon start airing the fourth season if they only did four out of twenty-six episodes? Jon23812 (talk) 23:15, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea. But it looks like there might be a wait between episodes. Well find out from dan in a couple of weeks if it is the real date.Saylaveer (talk) 00:25, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Dan confirmed that iGot a Hot Room will indeed air on the 30th of July on his twitter. Jon23812 (talk) 21:37, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Is season 4 the last season? CrazyApple1998

iGot a hot room

Arcording to tv guide (/http://www.tvguide.com/tvshows/icarly/episodes-season-3/289614) iGot a hot room will air on July 30th, and the plot is: Spencer makes Carly a gummy-bear lamp for her birthday, but it causes a fire and leaves her with a charred bedroom. Thanks to a large amount of insurance money, Spencer, Sam, Freddie and Gibby surprise Carly with a special bedroom makeover.

I tried to add it but it got deleted but tv guide is a very, very reliable source. Could someone please add it? Tartar789 (talk) 20:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

iCarly season 3/4

okay on othersites people are saying iCarly is saying season 3. Also nathan and the stars saying they are saying they are shooting season 3. So I just want opions on what should we do should we movie everying back into season 2 for season 3 or what. It got confussing after the new opening titles were added. I wuold like to hear everyone thought on this before we merge every back into season 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Saylaveer (talk • contribs) 14:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Episode 50 to 70 were produced for season 2, but they finished iBloop in August so Nick called those episode season 3. Dan Schneider talked about it on his blog in September before iThink They Kissed aired. Jon23812 (talk) 01:25, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Splitting the article by seasons?

should we do this this article is quite long and if we do we should consder protecting all the seasons from ips'Saylaveer (talk) 15:23, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Definitely not, IMO. There is no production info or anything as it is, so it would be pointless to further break them down. Ωphois 15:25, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

i am just suggesting. I seen other tv shows do it have alot of seasons after the page gets too long. Wizards and sonny have done it.Saylaveer (talk) 15:32, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

References

I've noticed that under the "References" section there are multiple "Facebook" and "Twitter" references, along with a few blog references. These are generally frowned upon using, as they aren't reliable sources. Unless anyone has any reason on why they should be kept, I will remove them. Battleaxe9872 ^Talk 13:59, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

They are reliable if they are from the series creator or cast. Ωphois 14:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from 71.142.132.72, 8 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}}

71.142.132.72 (talk) 21:34, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

You did not explain what alteration to the article you want made. BritishWatcher (talk) 21:55, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

series 4

Max Ehrich will be appearing in the 2 parter as a guest (i assume) source http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOO_3uF1SIY&playnext=1&videos=obWhDip-Rgk&feature=sub —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.176.234.167 (talk) 15:50, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Aaashminm, 28 August 2010

{{editsemiprotected}} i have 4 new episodes from a tv guide =) iAm tired of Sam Bothering Freddie iConfess my Love iStill Love You iAssist to Court

Aaashminm (talk) 21:47, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

notdone: those are not real episodes and no source is provided. TThe episodes we have are the real onesSaylaveer (talk) 22:03, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

iCarly & victorious crossover

when time comes do you think we should included this episode on the victorious episode page. So far it is counting as an Icarly episode and not a victorious episode. iCarly's production code would be 311-313. Even though it is a crossover between both shouws it only looks like an icarly episode. Also season 2 has not been picked up yet or anything has not been confirmed. If it does count as an episode for this show the production code would be 201-203. we might just have to wait to see what showfax gives us and see where they start o procuction codes. But it does look like an iCarly episode ony. give me your thoughts on what we should do when time comes.Saylaveer (talk) 11:36, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

iCarly AND Victorious Croosover

They got the guest stars wrong Tommy LeMelle should be in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.80.238 (talk) 04:16, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Deleted references

About the recent removal of references for aired episodes: we don't do that. We keep references except under very narrow, specific circumstances. All material in Wikipedia articles must have a notable, reliable, verifiable source. It's the Wikipedia answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything - see WP:42. The notice-to-editors seen during editing about "Future episodes" is merely to emphasize that need for sources, full stop. Thanks to everyone who has worked to keep this article sourced. So, why did I write this? I call it putting out a snack to feed a possible, potential tiger, and it's based on this essay, WP:Beware of the tigers. --Lexein (talk) 22:58, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

The reason why I made that edit is because if an episode has already aired, it's generally OK to remove the reference. References for television episode titles are only needed if the episodes is going to air. Yes, Wikipedia is driven by using references but if look at countless other TV episodes lists, references are not used for EVERY single episode on the list. QuasyBoy 18:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for not reverting my revert, and for discussing here. However, wait, what? If you know me, you know I love numbered lists of points:

1. I agree that a source could reasonably cover several episodes in a section, or apply to several episodes using ref name=. In other words, I would never insist on separate sources for each episode, if a single source covers several.
2. I'm going to need to see a source (discussion, consensus, essay, guideline, policy, pillar or decree) for your claim that "it's generally OK to remove the reference. References for television episode titles are only needed if the episodes is going to air." It's not in WP:MOSTV, and I have a mild doubt that it will ever be.
3. Removing citations opens the door to immediate deletion as unsourced material. That's like catnip or laser dots to deletionists and immediatists, if they were cats. WP:Reliable sources, on the other hand, are more like open water (if we're still talking about cats). Per WP:Verifiability, "This policy requires that anything challenged or likely to be challenged, including all quotations, be attributed to a reliable source in the form of an inline citation, and that the source directly supports the material in question."
4. Citations support not just the title, but any other episode information (summary, date, optional guest stars, director, etc.) presented. By deleting a source, you leave the other info unsupported as well.
5. References are never needed conditionally. The need for them is unconditional.
6. The status quo on List of iCarly episodes seems to be keep references, so I would vote for continuing to keep anyways, for consistency throughout the article.
7. WP:Arguments to avoid#What about article x? A.K.A. WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS makes the case that the way things are done over at other articles doesn't necessarily apply at all to what's going on in this article. Here at Wikipedia, it's quite common for editors to, in good faith, copy the way things are done at one article to another, without being familiar with what might be against policy or guideline there.
8. Deletions of references are of such concern that they are shown in watchlists: (Tag: references removed).
9. After a reliably sourced citation has been created, it requires extra effort and edit(s) to delete them, so why would anyone ever bother to do that? Aside from low-quality or truly redundant references, there's no practical reason to delete them, because there are no storage limits for text at Wikipedia.
10. Article size is a concern, but that shouldn't affect references, just splitting. At the moment List of iCarly episodes is 110k in size. Per WP:Article size it may be time to split it out into seasons 1-2 and 3-4, or (maybe) 1,2,3,4. --Lexein (talk) 22:55, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Please help find non-blog sources if at all possible

The only truly notable blog here is Dan Schneider's DanWarp blog, because he's recognized as the producer of the show, which is notable. Its chain of notability helps, though some editors would prohibit it because he's not blogging as part of an established media outlet with an editorial policy and fact checking. Therefore, it's on the bubble, and only usable for citing as things Dan says. As for other blogs, they're really not notable unless cited in major media as sources. So please help find better sources for the material which is only currently supported by blogs. --Lexein (talk) 01:17, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Merge

• Support Episode is not notable by itself.--intelati^(Call) 21:23, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
• Support iSaved Your Life is a regular episode, not notable enough for separate article. --Confession0791 ^talk 21:26, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

• Support for reasons above. Andrea (talk) 22:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

I second the motion. iSaved Your Life may be a TV special, but it's still a regular episode, unlike iGo To Japan and iDate a Bad Boy. Thanks for giving the idea, intelati, Confession0791, and Andrea. Heinah (talk) 14:02, 21 September 2010 (UTC)Heinah

Splitting

Is the Split alright? I didn't see consensus to split.?.--intelati^(Call) 00:59, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

It seems alright to me. :)--intelati^(Call) 02:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I've reverted the list to its original version, and made the other pages redirects. This has been attempted before and shot down, so a consensus would be needed to do so. Currently there is nothing that would suggest the articles should be split, and you're just moving the episodes themselves to a different article. There is no season-specific information presented, making them pointless. Ωphois 02:28, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Hence my hesitation.--intelati^(Call) 02:30, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

If you can find season-specific production information, then by all means go for it. My concern is that, like other season articles I've seen, it will be split now but never be improved upon. Ωphois 02:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

I Didn't do anything, but I always felt the (this) article was too long. So, I wasn't sure what to think of it.--intelati^(Call) 02:38, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Oh, lol, my apologies. Ωphois 02:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

That's alright, I always make sure my edits have consensus. I was alerting the watchers on the MAJOR change. I guess your one of the 129 watchers of this page.!.!.!.--intelati^(Call) 02:45, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Poll

Should we have separate articles for each season.--intelati^(Call) 17:35, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Support: As long as some keeps an eye on the articles. We had problems on this one with episodes # and other things for ip's. As long as that doesn't happen I would say go ahead.Saylaveer (talk) 20:19, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Oppose: Unless someone adds season-specific production information, there is absolutely no point in separating them. Ωphois 20:31, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

• I was asked to give my opinion on the proposed split so here it is. WP:SIZERULE recommends that consideration be given to splitting articles once an article reaches 40-60kB of readable prose. Using a very loose interpretation of the definition of readable prose, the amount of readable prose in this article is about 49kB, which is within the lower half of WP:SIZERULE's "May need to be divided" category. Splitting is typically reserved for shows with several seasons, making the "List of" article overly long, and that really isn't the case here. Based on article growth it's probably not necessary to split until the end of this season at least, unless substantial season specific content can be added to the season articles, as Ophois has quite correctly noted is necessary. If the decision to split the article is made, please remember to ensure that it is split according to Wikipedia:Splitting and Template:Episode list#Sublists. I'm happy to provide help if necessary. --AussieLegend (talk) 22:25, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Archiving

i think it is time that we archive again --Gerty (talk) 19:16, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Season 4 episodes

I believe season four will have 13 episodes, then season five will have 13 episode. The article says that she will do 26 episodes, it doesn't say for a specific season Jon23812 (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Split

Let's make a decision on splitting this article.

• Support Page is long enough. --Confession0791 ^talk 23:06, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
• Strong Oppose Production information and reviews of each season are needed before splitting them off. Ωphois 18:50, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
• Support There are numerous examples of TV series being split into seasons without production code information. Simba63 17:29, 20 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsimms63 (talk • contribs)

  Sorry, but Wikipedia:Other stuff exists is a very poor argument. Just because other editors made the mistake of doing so doesn't mean it should continue. Ωphois 21:47, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

  A poor argument in your opinion or not, but this article is getting too long. Simba63 17:08, 24 November 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dsimms63 (talk • contribs)

• Comment I don't watch this program but was invited to comment, so here it goes. I've had this same discussion so many times now that I keep a draft of the following in my userspace. WP:SIZERULE recommends that consideration be given to splitting articles once an article reaches 40-60kB of readable prose. Using a very loose interpretation of the definition of readable prose, the amount of readable prose in List of iCarly episodes is about 54kB, which is approaching WP:SIZERULE's "Probably should be divided" category. It won't take long to get there, so splitting may be justified on size alone. The argument that production information and reviews of each season are needed before splitting is not really valid. It would certainly be desirable to have these but many articles are simply lists of episodes, split out to stop the main article from getting too large. If the decision is made to split the article, it should really be given a cleanup before doing so, to ensure consistency in the split articles. When splitting, it's important to split in accordance with Wikipedia:Splitting and Template:Episode list#Sublists. WP:SPLIT requires attribution on the talk pages of new articles,[1] but this is often overlooked. --AussieLegend (talk) 00:02, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
• Support I do agree with AussieLegend the article needs a split. I have seen articles that have no production information. I am going to go ahead and to this and work on it in my project page. Once it is up anyone can go there and make changes and talk about anything that needs to be changed. Joey Tomson (talk) 17:56, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

Scott Halberstadt (Eric from Drake and Josh) also makes a cameo in iStart a Fan War?

You can obviously see him next to the guy who plays Craig in Drake and Josh during the official trailer.

iPilot and viewer numbers

If the "US Viewers in Millions" statistic is meant to indicate for the premiere episode, then iPilot needs to be changed to 5.6 million. The 13 million figure is including both it's original premiere and the encore from the day after. http://www.buddytv.com/articles/drake-and-josh/icarly-premiere-draws-13-milli-10782.aspx Shows that the encore got 30% more than the first airing, and thus that gives a figure of 5.6 million for the first airing, and 7.3 for the second. This also ties in with various press releases that showed that iSaved Your Life was the highest rating episode of the show ever with 11.2 million, and that Victorious, another nick showed that aired later, was the highest ever premiere episode with 5.7 million viewers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.252.83 (talk) 12:44, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Film

An iCarly film will premiere in 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.16.155.179 (talk) 21:14, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

iLost My Mind

Why is it deleted? We have numerous sources that confirms it is a real episode: production codes, Dan Schneider's tweets and others. Guydudeasian (talk) 15:04, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Edit request by Guydudeasian

http://danwarp.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2011-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&updated-max=2012-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=20

These are the confirmed titles according to the official blog of Dan Schneider. I have no idea where these people get "iDate Sam and Carly" from. Please change it from "iDate Sam and Carly" to "iDate Sam and Freddie". Also add "iCan't Take It" to the list of episodes.

While the actual page to be changed is the Season 4 page, I'll explain here: That blog is not a reliable sources. We should never include information about unreleased episodes (movies, shows, albums, etc.) unless it can be verified by a reliable source. As such, I went ahead and remove the last 4 episodes listed, because none of them had verification. Qwyrxian (talk) 05:59, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Reference 131 leads to a Turkish language forum discussing iCarly and Mylie Cyrus. It has nothing at all to do with the things it's linked to here. 72.86.37.79 (talk) 22:30, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Edit request from Billybobjoe723, 13 August 2011

Please change the organization of the episodes in each season. The episode "iFight Shelby Marx" is the last episode of Season 2. The episode "iThink They Kissed" is the first episode of Season 3. This article currently has what should be listed as Season 2 and Season 3 combined into Season 2 which is false. Also, Season 4 ends with the episode "iLost My Mind" and begins with "iDate Sam and Freddie", but this article does not have Season 5 listed yet. Billybobjoe723 (talk) 07:54, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

• What reliable sources can we refer to in order to verify that arrangement of the episodes? —C.Fred (talk) 14:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm gonna have to correct you there. Yes, everything before Season 4 is correct, but I'm wondering if Season 4 ended with iParty with Victorious. (Edited) Even though Dan's blog doesn't count as a valid source, and with Nickelodeon saying Season 5 hasn't officially been produced yet, what's up with the new opening? Are we just going to live with a Season 4 with 4 kinds of openings? Especially how the new opening looks "new" new and totally Season 5 worthy. Dunno, I just think this could be a sign for a new season. Wikialexdx (talk) 21:46, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Duplicate References and External link sections

Is there any way to delete the redundant sections? – Tinton5 (talk) 17:25, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Usually, refs and ext links should not duplicate entries. If an EL is used as a ref, it should be removed from EL. Here, meh. I'm not complaining, because EL is short, and the detail in refs is a breath of fresh air, really. I would never remove valid refs. --Lexein (talk) 22:53, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Okay problem solved. — Tinton5 (talk) 00:44, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Listen.

iCarly doesn't have a season 5 yet!!!!!! LOOK AT THE PRODUCTION CODES PEOPLE!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.235.81.12 (talk) 14:22, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

True, Dan confirmed it as a YouTube video, where we cleary see that iCarly is STILL in season 4! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dupewrest (talk • contribs) 09:02, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Production code are the same as Seasonal Numbering

Seasonal Numbering: The code is a number that is a bit like room numbers.
The last two digits are the episode number and the first one or two digits are the season number. So "#421" would be the 21st episode of Season 4. This can also be written as "4x21", "4.21",
"4-21", or "S04E21". So Seasonal Numbering are Production code.
You have to re-fix the Production code for Season 3 & 4 of iCarly.
You don't have to re-write them down, Just tell the iCarly fans about.
Season 3, Episode 1 is 301: "iThink They Kissed" & Season 4, Episode 1 is 401: "iGot a Hot Room".
I KNOW I AM RIGHT.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.90.101.172 (talk) 23:20, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

I am afaired your incoorect. All of the production codes are correct for this show. A production code tells when the episode was produced. iThink They Kissed was the 27th episode for the 2nd production season. So thats why it has a production code of 227. The episodes are out of order when they are produced for the show. For iGot a Hot Room in this case was the first episode of the airing season and just happened to be the first episode to air. It is all up to Nick on how they air the episodes. Hope this clears things up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.110.189.29 (talk) 15:34, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Episode Numbering

The episode numbering is a little off. All reliable sources I've seen listed the "Double" numbered episodes as only 1 "single" episode. Example: iQuit iCarly is listed as 33-34 when it should only be listed as 33, iStart a Fan War is listed as 6-7 and should only be listed as 6 and iStill Psycho is listed as 7-8 and should be listed as 7. Season 1 25 total, season 2, 40 total, season 3 40 total and season 4 should only be at 9. All these episodes aired as 1 episode with 1 set of credits. Just because there's 2 production codes, they are aired as a single episode (as reliable sources state). Unless the DVD's have all the episodes in "Parts" on the DVD's then they should be listed in "Parts" on the episode pages. - Alec2011 (talk) 21:04, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

The doubled-number episodes have two production numbers due to the fact that they are made under the production of two episodes, like how "iGo to Japan" and "iParty With Victorious" were both made under the production of three episodes since they're both 90-minute specials. - Jabrona - 01:04, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't matter. There's only 1 set of credits for the full 90-minutes, not 3 it aired as one single episode. iTunes, Amazon, Futon Critic, MSN.tv & TV Guide all list them as one episode, not 2 (or 3). - Alec2011 (talk) 01:54, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, but a 90-minute special is apparently produced as three production episodes as a one-hour special is produced as two. I never saw much of a problem with this, so I'm alright with how these specials are numbered. Plus Dan himself stated that there were 70 episodes total by the time he got done shooting episodes by August 2009 on his blog on September 1 going on about the Season 2 and 3 issue. So I stand correct. I'm surprised you're bringing up how iTunes and Amazon has those episodes listed, but look at how those websites have the 45 episode production of Season 2 listed that you're denying being the case when it comes to the broadcast and production season cycles. - Jabrona - 03:00, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't matter as AussieLedgend stated here, if the episodes aired as one "continuous" episode with one set of credits it should be listed as ONE episode not two, or three. Sure there was 70 ordered but they aired as 1 episode so they have 1 episode listed but both prod. codes are listed as well. - Alec2011 (talk) 01:04, 17 January 2012 (UTC)

New Icarly Episode Premiering on February 4th.

I don't know where I heard about it but its called : I must get back to Seattle — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bubblesandfizz (talk • contribs) 04:30, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, there's not much we can do with this until we hear some news about it. So in the meantime, we won't have it listed. - Jabrona - 04:45, 21 January 2012

Seems like there's no word on what's coming next. Anyone hear anything? 72.86.47.226 (talk) 21:32, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Nope. I'm still wondering if there are still a couple more episodes left in the current season since there was suppose to be 13 of them. We only have 11 of them and the last few were rather aired out really quickly one after the other. - Jabrona - 03:52, 16 February 2012

iCan't Take It

This episode is bad because the audience is 5.1 is not 4.7. icarly wiki says.http wiki :/ / icarly.wikia.com / wiki / Ican 't_Take_It.190.38.116.74 (talk) 03:46, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

The iCarly wiki must be wrong. The source we've provided in the article states 4.7, not 5.1. Where did the wiki get their information? Kevinbrogers (talk) 03:50, 6 February 2012 (UTC)

iFight Shelby Marx

This website says that iFight Shelby Marx was seen by 8.9 million, but alas other sections of this same website that says it was seen by 7.9 million. Put a only rating because it can confuse ... is 8.9 or 7.9?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.38.116.74 (talk) 00:46, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

Season 5

TV Guide states "iApril Fools" is a new season. I'm pretty sure since most agree we can merge Season 2 and make Season 5 the newest season. - Alec2011 (talk) 03:01, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. 青い(Aoi) (talk) 03:57, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Considering it was made in the show's new filming cycle it was rather clear it was going to be the start of a new season. What I think was holding it back from being that was the discussion going on above regarding the seasons. - Jabrona 17:29, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Considering "A Tori Christmas" was made in the show's third filming season but aired in Season 2 just goes to show Nick does not care what "filming" season the show was filmed in they just air episodes the way they want. What held it back was that it was announced Season 4 would only have 13 but ended up having only 11 (considering the fact Miranda left for her tour). - Alec2011 (talk) 16:47, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

A new season page has been made but under the Season 6 title that I agree with. Are you psychic? I was just about to point out that very thing regarding "A Christmas Tori" but you having to edit your comment prevented me from posting mine at the moment. I was going to say how seeing what was done with "Victorious" with "A Christmas Tori" it was also unclear to me whether or not Nickelodeon was going to count this episode as the start of a new season or throw a couple of them in with the count of the latest season since it only had 11 episodes. - Jabrona - 16:53, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I said that Season 5 should be the newest season, not season 6. We don't really have a formal announcement of the new season of iCarly and the official "premiere" date. Nick announced Season 3 of Victorious would air on January 28th so "A Christmas Tori" is part of Season 2 since it aired before the "official premiere" made by Nick. Since TV Guide has "iApril Fools" listed under "Season 5" we have separated it into a new season, but if Nick announces an "official premiere" after "iApril Fools" or another episode down the road, those episodes would be put with the previous season. - Alec2011 (talk) 18:14, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

iHalfoween

Eii... iHalfoween premieres Saturday April 28th, on Nick!

The facebook link seems down at the moment and wikis are not reliable sources. --AussieLegend (talk) 18:10, 5 April 2012 (UTC)