Talk:List of highest-grossing concert tours/Archive 1
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Diamonds World Tour & Mrs Carter World Tour
These tours need to be in the list right now. The tours grossed more than 130 million. It need to be in the last section. JLeemans1 (talk) 18:47, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
Inaccurate list
Why isn't 25 Live by George Michael listed? Also, why is Devils & Dust Tour here if it only grossed $33 million?--79.112.52.101 (talk) 20:00, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
If you can find accurate information for 25 Live, it should be added. As of today, Devils & Dust Tour is no longer listed. :00, 09 October 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurencedunne (talk • contribs) 18:13, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Other high-grossing tours that might need investigation for inclusion are Pink Floyd's Division Bell Tour of 1994, the Eagles' Hell Freezes Over Tour of 1994-1996, the Elton John/Billy Joel joint tour of 2001-2003, and Tina Turner's Break Every Rule Tour of 1987-1988, Wildest Dreams Tour of 1996-1997, Twenty Four Seven Tour of 2000, and Tina!: 50th Anniversary Tour of 2008-2009. Wasted Time R (talk) 23:53, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Also worthy of inclusion if anyone can find reliable information on them, are Guns and Roses Use Your illusion Tour, U2's Zoo TV Tour and Popmart Tour, and Bruce Springsteen's Born in the USA Tour. Laurencedunne (talk) 16:19 November 2 2009(UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.200.27.9 (talk)
You have put bon jovi's Have a nice day tour as grossing 109 million, how did you work that out? they played to over 2 million people, just a bit less than there lost highway tour, which grossed 227 million, not the 210 you claim, unless you can not get the write figurs, i suggest u delete this page, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.84.223 (talk) 05:14, 15 October 2009 (UTC) I think you have to show us better sources. If your gona do this page, do it correct!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.93.12 (talk) 21:16, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
- I agree that there are problems when some of the dates fall outside Billboard's or Pollstar's reporting periods for a year. But you've got to show us better sources that reflect the entire tour. Wasted Time R (talk) 10:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I'v never done this before, but I'm trying! Okay, so Celine Dion's Las Vegas tour [according to Billboard] grossed 390,800,000-
Concert name: A New Day... Years Active: 2003-2007 Number of shows: 723 Tickets sold: 2.930.000 Gross sales: 390.800.000 Average price per ticket: 133
AND
Concert Name: Let's Talk About Love Tour Years active: 1998-1999 Number of shows: 97 Tickets sold: 2.300.000 Gross sales: 133.000.000 Average price per ticket: 58
Both of these can be confirmed on the Celine Dion official website. http://celinedion/tours.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.37.106.11 (talk) 22:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Your link is no good, and we really need Billboard links anyway. Wasted Time R (talk) 23:51, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Your link does not exist, also "A New Day..." was NOT a tour, it was a Las Vegas residency in one venue only - not a tour JWAD talk 22:20, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree. While Fansites should not be used, official artists websites and press releases from the artists are the best measurement. Billboard measures only the USA, not worldwide, and artists don't fluff their own numbers (at least not upwards) because they report those numbers to tax authorities. Fansites, of course, are a different story. --Laurencedunne (talk) 15:59, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
- Wrong. Billboard also reports other venues in the Boxscore chart. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Residencies are NOT TOURS! They should be listed in a different article. This article is about TOURS --Laurencedunne (talk) 15:59, November 10 2009 (UTC)
George Michael's 25 Live had grossed over $200 million between 2006 and 2008 and Michael Jackson's Bad World Tour [1] had grossed $125 million between 1987 and 1989. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phonography (talk • contribs) 21:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
- Unreliable source. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Adjusted for inflation/Sources/references
Please do not add unsourced or unreferenced material on this page. Fansites or other wiki pages are not reliable sources. Also please do not add an "Adjusted for inflation" section which is completely misleading, unreferenced and has been added to enable fancruft to be added to the page. It is completely unacceptable to use the adjusted amount to define the Top 20 as it is not accurate and not referenced. Thanks JWAD talk 19:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I agree completely about needing real sources, not fansites or other WP pages. However, I disagree strongly about removing the inflation-adjusted grosses column. In any economic or political science paper or textbook, monetary amounts across time are always adjusted for inflation, otherwise you reach completely skewed conclusions. The same is true in this context. Articles about the most popular movies of all time, for example, frequently adjust receipts for inflation, because otherwise the list is completely dominated by films in the 1990s and 2000s and incredibly popular films of previous decades, such as Gone With the Wind, The Sound of Music, and Jaws get lost. Our article List of highest-grossing films in the United States and Canada presents an inflation-adjusted list as well. Coming up with the inflation-adjusted figures here doesn't need fansites, just use of an inflation adjustment calculator on the actual gross figure, which is what was done.
Furthermore, there's a third way to rank concert tours, and that's by the total number of tickets sold. If you think about it, that's the way that all other music rankings are done. Nobody puts together lists of the "Top-grossing albums of all time". As shown in List of best-selling albums in the United States, the rankings just count albums sold, and it doesn't matter whether an album sold for $3 in 1970 or $15 in 2000. In terms of the popularity of a tour (and not how rich the tour made the promoters), it's total tickets sold that's probably the most important indicator.
So in order to be useful and fair, this article needs to present the top concert tours in all three categories, actual gross, inflation-adjusted gross, and tickets sold. Wasted Time R (talk) 21:45, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe we can incorporate what you have mentioned and have 3 seperate sections on the page: "Actual Gross", "Gross adjusted for Inflation" and "Tickets sold". These will all have to be referenced and proved. JWAD talk 17:25, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- Having three sections is a lot of extra work to maintain. Having sortable columns allows having just one table, and the reader can chose any of the three sort options. It's okay with me if the default presentation is actual gross. The key to having one table, however, is that the cutoff criteria has to be any tour that gets in the top 20 (or 25 or whatever you pick) by any of the three criteria. Wasted Time R (talk) 23:43, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
- sortable columns is the way to go. I strongly believe that adjusted for inflation is the correct way to measure the gross of a tour. It's the only way to compare tours across different eras. If the inflation adjustor used is not the best one out there, lets get a better one, but using flat dollar amounts to compare tours is not the right way to go. Also, I agree with previous writers that total tickets sold might be a better measurement, sadly it's also a harder one to get accurate information on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurencedunne (talk • contribs) 17:23, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Maybe you should not use the inflation part, cos as i remember i payed the same price for a ticket at Bon Jovi's HAND Tour and Lost highway tour, both were £40 including booking fee. so there price didnt go up with inflation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.84.223 (talk) 20:07, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
- Very good point indeed, I paid the same price for my tickets to Madonna's 2006 Confessions Tour as to 2008 Sticky & Sweet Tour. JWAD talk 22:22, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- My Bruce Springsteen at Giants Stadium tickets were $18 in 1985 and $95 in 2009. That's the kind of change we're trying to reflect. Wasted Time R (talk) 23:05, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
- Very good point indeed, I paid the same price for my tickets to Madonna's 2006 Confessions Tour as to 2008 Sticky & Sweet Tour. JWAD talk 22:22, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
I just spent $80/ticket for a show for the same band that cost me only $35 ten years ago, similar seats. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurencedunne (talk • contribs) 15:56 November 10th 2009 (UTC)
A New Day...
This was a show in Las Vegas and wouldn't be considered a concert tour. Therefore it shouldn't be on this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Burbscinates (talk • contribs) 20:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
- Agreed. Tour is a series of concerts in various cities. Bluesatellite (talk) 01:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
so how are you calculating the ticket inflation prices?? what are you using because its a bit confusing.. here it says "Bruce Springsteen's 1984–1985 Born in the U.S.A. Tour, which grossed between $80 million and $90 million at the time,[22] would be between about $190 million and $210 million in 2010 terms" but when i use the inflation adjustment calculator i get a very lower figure ..so how is this been done — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stonash7 (talk • contribs) 13:25, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
Michael Jacksons Dangerous world tour
Why isnt Michael jacksons Dangerous wolrd tour on the list . It grossed over 125 million dollars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.132.207.229 (talk) 11:28, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
many of michael jackson tours should be included.. bad and dangerous grossed 125million at the time and with inflation it comes close to 300mill.. look into this please — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stonash7 (talk • contribs) 13:28, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
As to the Dangerous Tour, Michael himself said he wanted to reach $100 million by Christmas 1993, but the tour was cancelled after November 11, 1993. Given inflation and the fact that Michael's Bad Tour, which grossed $125 million, barely made it on the list, I don't think the Dangerous Tour will. The HIStory Tour will probably make the list, though. Mauri96 (talk) 05:38, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Lady Gaga Monster ball tour
According to Billboard and MTV GaGa's monster ball tour grossed nearly 200 million dollars making it one of the highest grossing tour of all time why is not listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.150.10.176 (talk) 17:43, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
- WP:RECENTISM. — Legolas (talk2me) 06:36, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- Just curious, does this mean the tour will be added once it finishes? It has already passed the Circus tour and will surely pass the one above it by the end of the tour. 24.13.107.81 (talk) 04:57, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Gaga's tour is expected to cross $200 million after it gets over in May 2011. It will definitely be one of the highest-grossing tours of all time, just that we need to be a little patient till the final numbers come in. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:45, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
- Just curious, does this mean the tour will be added once it finishes? It has already passed the Circus tour and will surely pass the one above it by the end of the tour. 24.13.107.81 (talk) 04:57, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
Madonna's Sticky & Sweet Tour
Where did it go? It's the higest grossing tour for a female AND solo artist. It should most definately be up there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.183.92 (talk) 23:55, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
what is
the highest nuber of entries we can have in this list? Can anyone specify? — Legolas (talk2me) 06:35, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
- How about over 100 million grossed? Bluesatellite (talk) 01:11, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sounds good then. — Legolas (talk2me) 04:45, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
Lost Notes Link
The second note, b, is unlinked. KitchM (talk) 06:48, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Where have the other Rolling Stones tours gone???
Somebody has removed all the Stones' tours except No. 1 !! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stho002 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
- Failure to provide reliable sources led to their removal I believe. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
U2 Tours
There are several U2 tours that could be on this list but are not because of the inabililty to find accurate information. If anyone can find a reliable source, please add to list:
Elevation: USA Today reported North American Sales of $109 Million [2] for North America Alone, not counting the 33 concerts in Europe, many of which were in open-air parks or stadiums (like the famous Slane Castle Show)
If anyone can find reliable information on their european revenues for that tour, it would easily make the list.
Zoo TV: According to U2's own figures, POP grossed $171 Million from 3.9 Million people. Zoo TV played to a much larger 5.3 Million. It surely deserves a place on this list if good revenue figures can be found for it.
Joshua tree Tour: 111 mostly stadium concerts, if anyone can find reliable references, it shoudl be added. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.200.27.9 (talk) 15:32, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
I think there's something wrong, please read here:
Billboard magazine march 14th, 2009--Megagia (talk) 13:18, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Inflation getting it's own list
gross after inflation should be also used to make a list for the top 20 grossing tours of all time. like bruce springsteen is mentioned. that would be interesting. i mean the biggest grossing movie section also has an inflational to list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.34.189.69 (talk) 15:44, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
- It already has. — Legolas (talk2me) 15:33, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Falling into you tour and Let's talk about love tour?
And why you don't create a other list like "Other music shows" like Céline Dion's show a ne day [02:48, April 14, 2011 70.30.176.91]
Lady Gaga Monster Ball
this article just came out in billboard: http://www.billboard.com/charts/hot-100#/events/lady-gaga-s-monster-ball-tour-breaks-record-1005172562.story should we put it in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.48.164.201 (talk) 00:28, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- Yes of course. — Legolas (talk2me) 04:26, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Kiss Reunion Tour
Hi everyone,
This list is really inaccurate there should be a ton of changes. One being that Kiss grossed 143.7 million in 1996-1997 as part of there reunion tour and in adjusted dollars to todays standards they would have grossed $205,185,813. Shouldnt they be on the list? 23rd place by my count. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.178.35.10 (talk) 02:46, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
Where is Michael Jackson's Dangerous World Tour (3,900,000) and HIStory World Tour (4,500,000)?--BadMuroZ (talk) 19:10, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
- Provide reliable source for your statements, then only it will be added. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:15, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
- here I find a source for Kiss reunion tour grossing 143.7 mil:
http://www.paulshaffersdayinrock.com/calendar/041610.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.241.143.157 (talk) 19:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
Progress Live Tour
Hi, i'm just wondering if its possible to add the Progress Live tour by Take That as the tour has grossed $185,175,360 in just 29 shows, i make it to be number 20 on the list..User:Handsopened 13:41, July 21, 2011
- I have reverted your change to the U2 list as your additions are all without sources, and for the above query also you need to provide a source. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:46, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
I recieved the information yesterday from Billboard Boxscore: Current Scores http://www.billboard.biz/bbbiz/charts/currentboxscore.jsp
- Sorry Billboard needs to officially declare it, we don't synthesize different sources to come to a rationale. — Legolas (talk2me) 12:55, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
- I added the Progress Live tour since Billboard 's "Top 25 Tours of 2011" has already come out.--Mauri96 (talk) 23:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Averages need an asterisk
It's not clear how the "Average gross (millions)" and "Average attendance" are computed.
Most of the time the Average gross matches the gross divided by a 1,000,000 divided by the attendance but in many cases it does not. It's not clear if when the music industry reports "Average gross" if they are including or removing some numbers such as unpaid tickets.
- The Rolling Stones's "A Bigger Bang Tour" reports a $3.8 average gross per show but the computed value is $3.9
- Madonna's "Sticky & Sweet Tour" reports a $4.79 average gross per show but the computed value is $4.80
- U2's "Vertigo Tour" reports a $2.96 average gross per show but the computed value is $2.97
- Celine Dion's "Taking Chances Tour" reports a $2.9 average gross per show but the computed value is $2.1
- Lady Gaga's "The Monster Ball Tour" reports a $1.14 average gross per show but the computed value is $1.13
- Metallica's "World Magnetic Tour" reports a $1.4 average gross per show but the computed value is $1.2
- Pink's "Funhouse Tour" reports a $1.3 average gross per show but the computed value is $0.9
Some of these are close and may be rounding issues but others, such as Celine Dion's "Taking Chances Tour" are quite different.
Likewise, for "Average attendance" it's not clear if the music industry includes unpaid attendance in the average but not the "attendance" column.
- Pink's "Funhouse Tour" reports an 21,461 average attendance per show but the computed value is 14,305. The reported number is a full third higher than what's computed.
- Pink Floyd's "The Division Bell Tour" reports an 55,000 average attendance per show but the computed value is 50,000.
- Celine Dion's "Taking Chances Tour" reports an 27,424 average attendance per show but the computed value is 22,727.
- Bruce Springsteen's "The Rising Tour" reports an 31,081 average attendance per show but the computed value is 26,937.
- Metallica's "World Magnetic Tour" reports an 16,976 average attendance per show but the computed value is 14,434.
- Cher's "Living Proof: The Farewell Tour" reports an 10,800 average attendance per show but the computed value is 10,769. This may be a rounding issue to make the reported average a nice even number.
- Britney Spears's "The Circus Starring Britney Spears" reports an 15,488 average attendance per show but the computed value is 15,464.
- Pink Floyd's "A Momentary Lapse of Reason Tour" reports an 21,250 average attendance per show but the computed value is 21,357. This may be a rounding issue with the average seat count rounded to the nearest 250.
- Lady Gaga's "The Monster Ball Tour" reports an 12,250 average attendance per show but the computed value is 12,438. This may be a rounding issue to make the reported average a nice even number.
--Marc Kupper|talk 18:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
bon jovi "the circle tour"
billboard says that bon jovi the circle tour has made over 365 million dollars. i think billboard considers the 2011 tour to be the circle tour http://www.billboard.com/features/bon-jovi-the-billboard-cover-story-1005411562.story#/features/bon-jovi-the-billboard-cover-story-1005411562.story?page=1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.10.189.60 (talk) 02:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Born This Way Ball
Madonnas's MDNA tour has been added, does any one have the BTW Ball numbers thus far? I'd imagine that it would already be in the top 40 with the 60 dates that have been released. I estimate $150,000,000 to 160000000 so far — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.59.143 (talk) 07:27, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
MDNA should be higher
Madonna's tour's already passed the 260million mark. Time to move her up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.213.121 (talk) 20:39, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
- Reliable source to confirm that? No blogs or editable pages, please.--Mauri96 (talk) 02:22, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
I'll look for a link, but it should definitely be higher. Also, only 76 shows are listed, theyve already announced over 80. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.23.213.121 (talk) 07:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
http://perezhilton.com/2012-04-19-madonna-tour-sales-250-million-new-dates-tba#.T7A6AFL4J7d Madonna's Tour has raked in almost 260 million. It needs to be moved higher.
Wherever We May Roam Tour ?
Does anyone have stats on Metallica's Wherever We May Roam Tour ? I'd imagine it to also rank fairly high in this list, considering it was a 200+ shows tour at the peak of their commercial success, and was mainly an arena / stadium tour, with high attendance. I would think this tour must have performed way better in terms of gross & attendance than their World Magnetic tour, which is on this list. Anyone got input? --178.254.105.194 (talk) 14:24, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
MDNA Tour
This tour has grossed over $400 million according to Billboard magazine
(SuperCell3000 (talk) 02:42, 8 July 2012 (UTC))
- This tour is only started in May and will maybe gross over 400 million, but at this moment it's not yet the case.Christo jones (talk) 17:05, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
End of list
Where do we draw an end to the list? This is going on and on? Do we draw it at 50? —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 08:54, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
- Since no one bothered to reply, I would stay draw the line at 50, and only tours grossing over $100 million. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 08:12, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
- Since the page has been updated into several periods, I propose the maximum 20 tours in every section to keep the balance of the article. I believe that more tours will gross over $100m in near future, so it's to avoid WP:RECENTISM (2010s) as well. Bluesatellite (talk) 00:47, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
- Accepted. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:43, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
- I do think we should consider capping the list to maximum number of entries per decade. The name of the list is, after all, "Highest-grossing" and not just "High grossing", implying that there's a cut line of tours not shown. I think the top 20 tours that gross over $100m in a decade is a reasonable place to start. Perhaps in the future we'll have to revisit the cutoff but for now it seems sensible. Should we also consider lowering the threshold for tours prior to the 2000's when $100m tours became more commonplace? 87Fan (talk) 15:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think using the adjusted inflation figure is fairer than lowering the threshold for pre-2000s tours. It reflects how music industry has changed over the years. Before the 2000s, artists still got a lot of their profit from record sales. Now, since record sales have declined very much, they have to make money from touring instead. List of best-selling albums page is dominated by 1980s/1990s releases, and it uses the same threshold (20m copies) for post-2000s albums. So, I think this page has to work the same way. The main problem for the pre-2000 tours actually is the lack of official figures/reliable sources. Break Every Rule Tour by Tina Turner is definitely one of the most profitable tour ever (4m attendance), but we never know how much it grossed. Bluesatellite (talk) 04:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
- That is an accurate assessment of the situation and yes that's how the lists are mostly structured. I think this list can be Featured list worthy if we work on it a bit more. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:52, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
- These links describe how touring has taken over the record sales in musicians' revenue. We can incorporate it on the lead section to explain why most of the top-grossing tours come from this decade. Bluesatellite (talk) 12:24, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
- That is an accurate assessment of the situation and yes that's how the lists are mostly structured. I think this list can be Featured list worthy if we work on it a bit more. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:52, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
- I think using the adjusted inflation figure is fairer than lowering the threshold for pre-2000s tours. It reflects how music industry has changed over the years. Before the 2000s, artists still got a lot of their profit from record sales. Now, since record sales have declined very much, they have to make money from touring instead. List of best-selling albums page is dominated by 1980s/1990s releases, and it uses the same threshold (20m copies) for post-2000s albums. So, I think this page has to work the same way. The main problem for the pre-2000 tours actually is the lack of official figures/reliable sources. Break Every Rule Tour by Tina Turner is definitely one of the most profitable tour ever (4m attendance), but we never know how much it grossed. Bluesatellite (talk) 04:29, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
- I do think we should consider capping the list to maximum number of entries per decade. The name of the list is, after all, "Highest-grossing" and not just "High grossing", implying that there's a cut line of tours not shown. I think the top 20 tours that gross over $100m in a decade is a reasonable place to start. Perhaps in the future we'll have to revisit the cutoff but for now it seems sensible. Should we also consider lowering the threshold for tours prior to the 2000's when $100m tours became more commonplace? 87Fan (talk) 15:31, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
- Accepted. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:43, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
- Since the page has been updated into several periods, I propose the maximum 20 tours in every section to keep the balance of the article. I believe that more tours will gross over $100m in near future, so it's to avoid WP:RECENTISM (2010s) as well. Bluesatellite (talk) 00:47, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
Why not let it at TOP 40? Any day soon the TOP 20 will surely be higher than 200 million. I only say this because its useful to use the grid to change the order (for instance use the get the most grossing inflation adjusted top where some tours that would be top 20 are already out of the grid and others will be soon). - I'm talking about the main Grid Top of All Time. Nuno gouv (talk) 21:05, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Inflation hasn’t been adjusted for all!
Michael Jackson’s BAD tour, for example, grossed 125 million, which, by 2012 standard, is approx. $252.63, so how could the inflation calculation be accurate …I have just used an online inflation calculator for this.
Also, the attendees on MJ’S are higher than some of those further up the list for higher gross, which doesn’t add up; this is part of the confusion regarding the supposed correct inflation in the wiki list.
In other words, tickets were cheaper back in the 80’s and 90’s for concerts for starters, and if you bring the current highest grossing wiki figures back to 1987’s inflation, it practically cuts their gross figures in half - Just as bringing Jackson’s BAD tour gross up to 2012 inflation brings his 125mill to over double.
If one looks closer, another example is number 14 in the list: Bruce Springsteen’s 2007 tour’s original gross at approx. $235+++.+++ brought back to 1996 Dangerous tour era = $177.83++++ = History tour’s $165+++ brought up to 2007’s inflation would = approx. $241.45++++ Or another example: Madonna’s 2012 Sticky & Sweet tour gross of $305+++ brought back to 1996 History tour era inflation = approx. $208+++ while the 1996 History tour’s gross of $165+++ brought up to 2012’s MDNA inflation would = approx. $241.45.
So the wiki inflation calculation for highest grossing is not actually spot on if we were to go into detail with each artist’s year of tour, as the latter tour dates are already going to be in the higher gross bracket due to latter inflation. It is like all the tours on the list would have to be compared calculating inflation against each tour year on the list - in other words, by either bringing thier gross back or forward in years regarding inflation for that time. Similar to what has been done above.
I can't be bothered to do anything like this as haven't time to be honest. However, its just confusing as the calculating is not really in full/true detail! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.111.89 (talk) 06:37, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
SPICE GIRLS- SPICEWORLD TOUR
Why is this not on the list 2.1million tickets sold at an Average price of £57.00 in 1998 That was around $108 at the time (Not including inflation) That would be around $227m GROSS! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.221.153.212 (talk) 23:10, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
- Please provide a third party reliable source for the content, then it will be included. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 06:03, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
Speak Now World Tour - Taylor Swift
We should add Taylor Swift's "Speak Now World tour" to the list, which sold more than 1,632,000 tickets and named top tour of 2011. This is the source: Speak now world tour --Chord.persianblog.ir (talk) 19:25, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm still waiting for a respond. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chord.persianblog.ir (talk • contribs) 21:11, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
- Wikipedia cannot be your source. Find a third party reliable source saying this. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 02:59, 27 June 2013 (UTC)
Please remove...
The photo stating that the 'Monster Ball' is the highest grossing debut tour, That is WRONG, It is NOT her debut tour the Fame Ball Tour was......... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.252.18 (talk) 16:59, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
The Immortal World Tour
Michael Jackson The Immortal Wolrd Tour so far has generated more than USD 300 million. http://www.johnbranca.com/michael-jacksons-legacy/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.53.25.231 (talk) 22:43, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
- Who is this reference from, I don't think that is a reliable source at all. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 05:20, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Taylor Swift's Speak Now World Tour
According to this site http://www.nme.com/news/taylor-swift/64904, Speak Now World Tour grossed $123 million. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarryingtheNightTonight (talk • contribs) 13:29, 8 June 2013 (UTC)