Talk:List of football stadiums in Greece

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Agia Sophia Stadium capacity

AEK has declared the capacity of Agia Sophia Stadium on their website here, which is 32,500. Tranquill Komnin (talk) 04:14, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Ownership of Karaiskakis Stadium

Karaiskakis Stadium appears to be owned by the Hellenic Olympic Committee. In 2003, a lease for use, but not ownership, was granted to Olympiakos. I've seen that on several sources, including this one, and while they're not great sources, I think the current wording should stay until a reliable source with contrary information is discovered. Wes sideman (talk) 15:54, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Topics: : 1) Capacity of Karaiskaki stadium and Agia Sofia stadium. 2) The new stadiums of PAOK, Panathinaikos. 3) Ownership and photo of Karaiskakis stadium.

1)Capacity of Karaiskaki stadium and Agia Sofia stadium: Karaiskaki 32115 spectators and 33334 with the suites. Accordingly, Hagia Sophia 31100 and 32000 with the suites.https://www.stadiumguide.com/karaiskaki/, https://www.sport-fm.gr/article/podosfairo/superleague1/aek-i-teliki-xwritikotita-tis-agia-sofias-Opap-Arena/4327253 2) The new stadiums of PAOK, Panathinaikos: The stadiums don't exist yet. No official studies either. How can you give them a specific number of seats? 3) Τhe Karaiskaki stadium belongs to Olympiakos for 50 years and then its ownership returns to the international Olympic committee. This is well known. Then the photo. I think that this is better than a match of Olympiakos, which also owns the stadium, than a match of foreign national teams. Δαλοσγαλλος (talk) 16:23, 9 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Δαλοσγαλλος: Okay, I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on this one, as it does seem you are genuinely trying to improve the article. However, your explanation and rationale for the changes are very confusing to me, and I concede that this may be due to English being a secondary language for you (I'm impressed by anyone that speaks more than one language, as I speak only one). The most important thing to understand right now is that you need to discuss these changes more fully, here on the talk page, before you revert the article again. I have reverted to the last good state one last time; I won't do it again, but you shouldn't either, until your proposed changes are discussed and the rationale behind them is clear. Is that fair? Wes sideman (talk) 13:56, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nice. Let's start with 2 simple things. First, why are you changing the photo? Secondly, as you will know, the stadiums of PAOK and Panathinaikos have not yet been completed nor have the relevant studies and permits been approved by the ministry. Is it considered correct to have a certain capacity in non-existent stadiums? Δαλοσγαλλος (talk) 20:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The third issue concerns the capacity of the AEK stadium. I will show you the official post of the Attica region about the capacity of the stadium in Greek and English https://www.sport-fm.gr/article/podosfairo/superleague1/aek-i-teliki-xwritikotita-tis-agia-sofias-Opap-Arena/4327253

Άδεια λειτουργίας και με τη… βούλα έχει πλέον η «Αγια-Σοφιά - Opap Arena». Αφότου μπήκε η τελευταία υπογραφή που απέμενε για να σφραγιστεί η απόφαση της Περιφέρειας Αττικής, αυτή αναρτήθηκε αναλυτικά στη Διαύγεια. Εκεί αποσαφηνίζεται λοιπόν η τελική χωρητικότητα του γηπέδου, που θα είναι 31.100 (με τις σουίτες και τις θέσεις στο εστιατόριο ν’ ανεβάζουν τον αριθμό πάνω από τις 32.000).

"Agia Sophia - Opap Arena" now has a license to operate with the ... seal. After the last remaining signature was entered to seal the decision of the Attica Region, it was posted in detail in Diaugeia.There the final capacity of the stadium is clarified, which will be 31,100 (with the suites and seats in the restaurant raising the number above 32,000).

The Karaiskakis stadium, as is known, is bigger since it has 32,115 seats and with the suites 33,334.https://www.geocities.ws/olympiacosthrilos/karaiskaki/index.html

In conclusion. Why do you negate me so confidently? Δαλοσγαλλος (talk) 21:12, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And one more thing. In terms of capacity, the Karaiskaki stadium excels, reaching 32,115 seats compared to the 31,100 of the "OPAP Arena", as shown by the official permit of the Attica Region issued today. Thus, "Karaiskakis" remains the first football stadium in capacity in the country and the second in capacity among all stadiums in the country in general, after of course the vast O.A.K.A.

A key factor in how impressive a stadium can be is undoubtedly the elevation. At the AEK stadium, the main building reaches 22.3 meters and with the canopy 27.26 meters. On the contrary, the height of the Karaiskaki stadium reaches 40 meters.

The dimensions of the playing field at the Karaiskaki stadium are 120X80, while at the OPAP Arena they are 105X68. Δαλοσγαλλος (talk) 21:49, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have to admit that I got misled by the official websites regarding this issue and I am the one who believed that these edits were not because of good faith but because of vandalism. I was wrong and Δαλοσγαλλος is right. However, the numbers we have to use are not the numbers of the suites, but the all-seater numbers, since the suites numbers are unclear; 32,589 here and 33,334 here for Georgios Karaiskakis Stadium, and 32,500 here for Agia Sophia Stadium. These numbers bring confusion and it is customary for the all-seater numbers to be the stadium capacity, that is, 31,100 [1] here for Agia Sophia Stadium and 32,115 here for Georgios Karaiskakis Stadium. It should also be mentioned that in a game where AEK announced sold out in Agia Sophia Stadium, it was reported by the Super League Greece official website that the attendance was 31,100 seats. Hope this resolves all confusion. Nevechear (talk) 22:58, 10 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

About the photo

I plan to change the photo of the Karaiskakis stadium. I will bet one of Olympiakos' Champions League match against Chelsea. I think it is better than the current one. Δαλοσγαλλος (talk) 07:04, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that a photo of an Olympiacos' game would be a better reference for the stadium, however the match against Chelsea does not show an adequate portion of the pitch. I believe the photo of the game against Arsenal, which is also the photo in the main article of the stadium is the most appropriate. Nevechear (talk) 08:26, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree my friend. It is obvious that your choices are amazing. Thank you very much. Δαλοσγαλλος (talk) 12:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Kleanthis Vikelidis

Νομίζω πως έχει χωρητικότητα 24000 θεατών. 2A02:586:813D:2AEA:EDC4:DB5C:241A:F748 (talk) 06:02, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]