Talk:List of findings in the Hurt Report
Possible Copyvio
[edit]I hesitated between this and a Prod. In short, this page is a straight copy/paste from the actual report. I don't know if the report qualifies as public domain, but if it isn't this is almost assuredly more than fair use would seem to cover.Tyrenon (talk) 21:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- The Hurt Report is a US Federal Government publication and is in the public domain. I began by uploading a copy to WP Commons [23]. Anyone can download the original PDF from the US Government here: [24]. At the time I thought that it would be convenient to have a copy, although it might better belong on WP Source than Commons. I'm kind of fuzzy on the sister projects and what each one does.
- My motivation for creating a page that lists all 55 conclusions was twofold. First, the Hurt Report article's Findings section [25] only listed 7 findings chosen by a WP editor, and I thought it would be less biased to present the full list, in the order they were originally published. I think the article was trying to promote a POV by selecting only certain points, paraphrasing them, and ordering them that way. The second reason is that the PDF scan of the report is riddled with text-recognition errors, making it difficulty to search, highlight, and quote. By creating the WP page and fixing the typos, it is more useful.
- Another editor then moved all 55 into the Hurt Report article [26]. And then another editor removed the entire list, saying [27] " summarize points here rather than list them -- that's why we have List of Findings in the Hurt Report.
- I can see a possible reason to delete it on the grounds that it belongs on Wikisource, provided the text is in a useful format, but the copyright shouldn't be a problem. Unless I'm mistaken, but my understanding is that it is the work of employees of the US Federal Gov.--Dbratland (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- As I said, I was uncertain. I think moving this to Wikisource is probably best; even though it's not a copyvio, large blocks of copy/pastes tend to be discouraged, particularly if that's all the article is. If it could be moved there and then removed from here, that would probably be optimal.Tyrenon (talk) 22:50, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
- Sounds good. I'll move it over to Wikisource in the next 3-10 days. I'll probably move the full copy of the Hurt Report PDF there as well.--Dbratland (talk) 05:04, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Help requested with moving to WikiSource
[edit]I said I would move this to WikiSource but I got utterly lost trying to find a page with simple instructions on how to do that. Can anyone point me to there? Thanks! --Dbratland (talk) 20:19, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
- The Wikisource what Wikisource includes guideline considers this a documentary source and requires inclusion in "complete form whenever possible." Is there a plain-text version of the entire report available? — Brianhe (talk) 16:24, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
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