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"Tank Destroyers"

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Some variants of the BMP-3 and of the Tigr light armoured vehicle are included as different vehicles, when they are only variants with anti tank weapons mounted. The links used in both cases prove it. In the case of the Tigr variant called Kornet-D, the link drives to a wikipedia page that has not even a version in Russian language. In the case of the BMP-3 variant called Krizantema-S, the link drives to a wikipedia page that is not even of the vehicle, it is of the man portable weapon mounted on the vehicle. If the criteria is to include variants, there are dozens of cases of IFVs with different guns mounted that should be also included, but it would be better to enter not in the definition of as many variants. Then, I expect the mistake to be corrected.

The Russian Armed Forces consider those vehicles as different ones,and they have different designations from their original counterparts.
Kornet-D has its page in English,so I do not understand your point that we also need a Russian language one. Krizantema-S link leads to the missile,which is only used on the vehicle,and can not be used by infantry (it is not man portable).
Other variants of IFVs and APCs are not designated as different vehicles by the Russian Armed Forces,and so we did not include them there.However,these ones are.
To conclude,these vehicles are considered as different ones by the Russian Armed Forces,multiple editors of this page,and also the editor team of this page in Russian language.So there is absolutely no reason to remove them.We will try expanding the Tank Destroyer section with Kornet and Shturm missiles as soon as we find good sources for them.RussianBear158 (talk) 14:31, 25 June 2016 (UTC)

BTR-60

The data used for this vehicle come from warfare.be, but is ignoring the fact that they include this vehicle in their archive section, which is reserved for the warfare out of service and unsuccessful prototypes. http://warfare.be/—Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.37.154.53 (talk • contribs) 3:17, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

It's possible that those BTRs may be in reserve storage now, not completely removed from service yet. Alternatively they could all be withdrawn entirely and those numbers listed there are just to show how many there were before their removal from service. It's not explained on the source page itself unfortunately.– Nohomers48 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
The data provided in this article come clearly from an old version of the source. The fact that the article was moved to the archive section in warfare.be should be considered. Also the data provided should be updated to the current info for the BTR-60 in the source cited. The number of 3 thousands and ... is not more in the cited source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.8.22.165 (talk) 16:02, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

BTR-90

I want to say about the BTR-90 armored personnel carriers does not replace the previous series ... not supplied, only the prototype lot, in ground troops began to be delivered BTR-82/A...imenno he intended to replace the older versions.[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by AktiNo (talk • contribs) 19:15, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I do not agree. There are some important sources that talk about a partial deploiment and a production before 2011. The BTR-90 would be in active service, but in limited numbers. The BTR-90 should be included again. http://warfare.be/db/catid/245/linkid/1789/ http://www.forecastinternational.com/archive/disp_pdf.cfm?DACH_RECNO=1002 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.53.1.181 (talk) 20:07, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

there is more...

There are missing for example Pantsir-S1 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantsir-S1, Sprut https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2S25and and even BRDM-2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRDM-2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.47.107.243 (talk) 00:43, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

  • Cureently the only Pantsirs belong to the Aerospace Defence troops, not the Ground Force, the 2S25 is used by the Airborne Troops, not the Ground Forces.The BRDM-2 on the other hand should be in here.– Nohomers48 (talk • contribs) 06:50, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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Tokarev-pistol

When was the Tokarev-pistol phased out of the service? --Exodianecross (talk) 15:40, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

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