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Inaccuracy of Flight Global's World Air Forces 2017/2018

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As before, may I again remind everyone especially FOX 52 that this source is inaccurate in its listing of aircraft in the Philippine Air Force. Among those noted are as follows: fleet numbers for AS-211, SF-260, OV-10, F-27, Nomad, Bell 412, UH-1, T-41, and the presence of H125 despite no orders for such helicopter. THis H125 has been appearing in their list for several years now and I remember mentioning this 2 years ago. As I said before, do not use FGs WAF too much especially when there are other sources confirming fleet numbers of other aircraft. This also applies to the Philippine Air Force. Phichanad (talk) 07:35, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]


Still Too Much Reliance on Flight International's World's Air Forces??

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Years after I pointed out that the numbers found on Flight International's annual World's Air Forces, not just for the Philippine Air Force but for several other air arms, is mostly incorrect. And a few editors are simply disregarding even any other acceptable sources. What's with the fixation on World's Air Forces? Are you an editor of Flight International? Many not just here but in other threads on air forces and air arms have provided reliable sources yet the same people simply take them out just to be in line with the data from World's Air Forces. What's with the monopoly on info? Phichanad (talk) 12:30, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Replied at Talk:Philippine Air Force rather than have duplicated discussion. MilborneOne (talk) 15:14, 19 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected

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As this article is subject to a bafflingly large number of unreferenced changes by IP and new editors, I've applied semi-protection. It defies belief that the PAF's inventory changes more frequently than that of air forces like the RAAF which are larger and have a major re-equipment process underway. Nick-D (talk) 09:44, 14 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2022

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f5 35 units Bleu Tzy (talk) 05:30, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --Hemantha (talk) 06:38, 3 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Tag update

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I just added a tag because some user/s keep on reverting the edits made by me and others with their edits that contain some outdated, redundant, wrong, and sometimes improper information. RPC7778 (talk) 16:34, 9 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@RPC7778: I don't really see any outdated information on the article, most of references are dated between 2019-2021. Kindly please put reason why do we need to put that those maintenance tags. Ckfasdf (talk) 07:50, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ckfasdf: After reviewing the sources extensively, there seems to be no problem with most of them, but most of the article still needs to be rewritten. For now, I won't remove the clean-up tag, but I have now removed the time-sensitive tag. RPC7778 (talk) 08:50, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@RPC7778: Since this article is only a "stand-alone list". How do we rewrite this article? do you have any suggestion? Ckfasdf (talk) 09:23, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ckfasdf: For the Current inventory: some of the aircraft names need to be rewritten, some of the origins should be changed/rewritten, add variants that are missing (if applicable), rewrite the roles of some aircraft, Ordinance should be Ordnance, etc. For the Retired aircraft: some total number of aircraft needs to be changed, add variants that are missing (if applicable), the "retired from service" in the notes redundant, etc. RPC7778 (talk) 12:11, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@RPC7778: Agree with your suggestions. However, those suggestions mainly focusing on the content of the list itself. I thought Template:Cleanup rewrite meant to inform other editor this list didn't comply with guideline for lists, that's why I am a bit confused on which part of this list that didn't follow the guideline. Ckfasdf (talk) 15:37, 11 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Duplication of "current inventory" table with List of active military aircraft of the Philippines

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I just noticed that "Current inventory" table of aircraft section on this page is duplication of List of active military aircraft of the Philippines#Air Force. The issue of duplication is if you want to update the content then you will need to update both pages (there is possibility that we update them differently and create may end up create different table of the exactly same subject) as per WP:REDUNDANTFORK.

My proposal are :

  1. remove "current inventory" table on this page or on List of active military aircraft of the Philippines#Air Force. pick one of those pages and refer the existing page to the other page. For example see List of equipment of the Royal Malaysian Air Force and List of aircraft of the Malaysian Armed Forces. This is the easiest solution.
  2. or make a template page and use that template on this page and the other page. you will only need to change the template if the content needs to be updated. For example see Irish Air Corps and List of aircraft of the Irish Air Corps, both pages use Template:Active Irish Air Corps Aircraft. Ckfasdf (talk) 08:49, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Personally, I'd prefer the option 1, to remove current inventory table on this article and add link to List of active military aircraft of the Philippines#Air Force. Because that list include aircraft inventory of Philippine armed forces and most aircraft inventory reference using Flightglobal's World Air Forces, which also include aircraft belong to other armed forces branches. Ckfasdf (talk) 16:47, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Ckfasdf: Remove List of active military aircraft of the Philippines#Air Force, from the list will be the easy way to solve this issue - FOX 52 talk! 15:15, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's the first option as I mentioned above, and yes it is the easy way. But let's see other comments. Ckfasdf (talk) 16:47, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Option 1 is better and matches other countries who have active military aircraft pages. MilborneOne (talk) 18:18, 13 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Ckfasdf: The option 1 proposal is the better action to take, remove/replace the list from List of active military aircraft of the Philippines#Air Force and replace it instead with a link to List of equipment of the Philippine Air Force. RPC7778 (talk) 07:25, 14 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Inventory table on List of active military aircraft of the Philippines#Air Force removed and put link to List of equipment of the Philippine Air Force.Ckfasdf (talk) 10:22, 15 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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