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Did you know... that in 2004, the world spent US$896,235 million on military expenditures and the U.S. military budget constituted 41 percent of this, placing the nation at top of the list of countries by military expenditures?

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Australia's defence expenditure

$34.6 billion in 2017–18. https://www.minister.defence.gov.au/minister/marise-payne/media-releases/budget-2017-18-defence-budget-overview The Government will provide Defence with $31.9 billion in 2015–16 and $132.6 billion over the Forward Estimates. http://www.defence.gov.au/Budget/15-16/

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Bias

Neither War on the Rocks nor Defense News is unbiased. They are appendages of the military industrial complex. So why are their opinions acceptable in this context? Of course opposing views could be included. Nicmart (talk) 23:14, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Replacement of table IISS by Global Firepower.(GF)

The table IISS was replaced by GF on August 2, 2024 with the justification quote: (published a better list with a more comprehensive source for 2024 military budgets. the previous source makes mistakes about several countries who announced a certain budget but could not follow through like Germany, other countries increased the budget with events in 2024 like Israel and Iran and others). This justification is definitely wrong. Because Germany increased its military budget from 63.86 billion dollars to 78.33 billion dollars. Germany set up a special fund in 2022 in the amount of 109 USD. This special fund runs until 2027 and a certain amount is drawn from it every year and added to the military budget. In 2023 this was 9.17 billion dollars and in 2024 it will be 21.62 billion dollars. These values have been approved by the federal parliament and are law. GF does not take this special fund into account. GF states that its data is valid for 2024.

In addition, the table from Glabal Firepower is riddled with errors

For example: 1 USA GF reports 831.73 billion USD but it is actually 886 billion USD https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-signs-886-billion-us-defense-policy-bill-into-law-2023-12-22/ 2 United Kingdom GF reports 62.81 billion USD but in 2023/24 it is actually 70.05 in 2024/25 it will be 72.86 USD https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-8175/#:~:text=How%20much%20does%20the%20UK,expenditure%20that%20meets%20NATO%27s%20definition. 3 Australia GF reports 52.55 billion USD, actually it is 36.8 billion USD in 2024/25 https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2024/05/15/australia-unveils-record-37-billion-defense-budget/ 4 Germany GF reports 55.94 billion USD, actually it is 78.33 billion USD https://www.bmvg.de/de/themen/verteidigungshaushalt

These would be four serious errors in the top 10 alone. In Germany, the special fund was not taken into account. In Australia, Australian dollars were confused with US dollars. I cannot explain the errors in the United Kingdom and the United States.

As the GF table is heavily inaccurate and provides incorrect information, I suggest deleting it and re-entering the previous table. Slim Nesbit (talk) 18:13, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have restored ....Editor will need to seek consensus for such a change. Even junk wedsite raise the same concerns as Slim above "How Accurate is Global Fire Power (GFP)?". Mahadarma Words. May 13, 2019. Retrieved August 19, 2024.. . Moxy🍁 20:11, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

NATO countries agreed to spend at least 2 percent of gdp, worth noting in the article

NATO countries agreed to spend at least 2 percent of gdp, worth noting in the article 46.116.97.103 (talk) 12:57, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

New user list

As many users would like to update the military budgets on an ongoing basis, but the existing lists are databases that reflect military spending and cannot be changed, I suggest a user list in which the current military budgets can be updated. This has the advantage that you always have up-to-date data. I have already created one, but it can be further refined and updated. I think it's a good idea and you should perhaps test it out now. Slim Nesbit (talk) 14:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]