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Tschaikovsky vs. Tchaikovsky

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How should the name of the composer of the music for “Serenade” be spelled? Most Westerners now spell it Tchaikovsky, but City Ballet took up, during Balanchine’s lifetime, the spelling Tschaikovsky. Why? Because that’s how the composer spelled it when he was in New York in 1891. (My thanks to the reader who sent me a copy of his Carnegie Hall autograph from the Pierpont Morgan Library.)

NY Times article by Alastair Macaulay, June 1, 2007

See also

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— Robert Greer (talk) 12:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • There are at least two different spellings of the composer's name(s) in current use on WP. I believe we ought to establish only one spelling and use it across WP. The lack of one is chiefly because discussions have not been focused in one place. The controversy has been included - and to some extent resolved - independently on the discussion pages for at least two articles, with each spelling supported by valid arguments. It seems best to continue the discussion and resolve the controversy in only one place, and that should be the discussion page for the composer himself, so I'll refer future comments to Talk:Pyotr_Ilyich_Tchaikovsky#Spelling of "Tchaikovsky" and ask you to make them there, please. Twistlethrop (talk) 15:00, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Manfred categorisation

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Manfred is listed among the symphonies, with the note: Tchaikovsky labelled this work "a symphonic poem in four movements".

Is this true? If so, and given it’s not numbered as a symphony, we need to say some words about why it’s nowadays categorised under the symphonies and not under the symphonic poems. -- JackofOz (talk) 07:35, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

David Brown lists this work as Manfred Symphony: (after Byron). This is how I've normally seen it mentioned. My guess would be that Tchaikovsky's labeling was due to the explicitly programmatic nature of the work, much like that of the Symphonie fantastique. Jonyungk (talk) 07:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Poznansky, Warrack and Grove say nothing (that I can see) about this labelling as a "symphonic poem" by the composer. It needs a cite + an explanation, or removal. -- JackofOz (talk) 08:47, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Introduction too long

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It just seems far too much for a List of Works; it's almost a mini biography all by itself. It seems to be covering the same ground as Music of Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky. This article is not intended to do anything other than what it says, list his works. Descriptions of them, and the big picture of his life and activities, are located elsewhere. Comments? -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 02:38, 6 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fwiw, I'm still very much of the above view. I believe this article is ripe for a complete revision, stripping it right back to just 2 lists of titles; one by opus number, one by genre. The discussion of the history or quality of individual works, and the Balanchine balletic arrangements, should all go. These belong in their own articles, not here. -- Jack of Oz ... speak! ... 09:03, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Operas?

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I believe he had eleven operas. In the introduction, it says he had ten operas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.87.68.253 (talk) 18:42, 15 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

List of compositions by Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky

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A polite enquiry: I may be missing something, but why on the above page, under 'ballets', is there also a list of stage works by one particular choreographer? Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 21:39, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Quality of Operas?

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"Second, he was no Verdi, Puccini or Leoncavalo. While he could write music that was often beautiful and sometimes very moving, it was generally not as arresting dramatically as anything those three provided." --Perhaps this statement should be revisted and another quote provided given that Tchaikovsky operas have become a mainstay of most modern opera houses---and that they are thrilling! 69.60.7.34 (talk) 00:41, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added attribution to the statement, which should clarify it is an informed opinion and not simply a blanket statement. Other than that, I don't see the point of changing the statement just yet. To the best of my knowledge, Onegin and The Queen of Spades are the only Tchaikovsky operas that appear with any frequency in the West and even then their appearance can seem rare compared with Mozart, Verdi and Puccini. The other operas are still virtually unseen. BTW, you might want to adopt a user name when making comments as users with only numbers for identification are generally either spammers or vandals. I'm not saying you're either of those but a user name would give you much more credibility. Food for thought. Jonyungk (talk) 17:25, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Jonyungk, please assume good faith reguarding IP users. They have just as much right to comment on things as anyone, and are not "generally either spammers or vandals" (see WP:HUMAN). ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 18:32, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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Just saying that this should link to the page where I got this from "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_compositions_by_Pyotr_Ilyich_Tchaikovsky", i.e. this page, where I got it from, but it should be pushed forward to the Tchaikovsky page.77Mike77 (talk) 21:58, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't the link at the very first 3 words in this article work for you? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:10, 10 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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