Talk:List of compositions by Michael Finnissy

Speedy deletion proposal

How can a list of compositions violate copyright? There are rulings in all major jurisdictions that a mere list of facts is not subject to copyright; Feist Publications, Inc., v. Rural Telephone Service Co. springs to mind. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 15:46, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

yes but this uses all the wordings etc. (e.g. instrumentation) exactly as in the website, and adds nothing to them....the listing is from the composer's own website and no secondary sourcing is mentioned (or is avaialble as far as I am aware) - Feist v. RTS did not spring to my uninformed mind, alas - I take it then you think I shd withdraw the delete proposal?? --Smerus (talk) 18:40, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My point is that {{db-copyvio}} is inapplicable here. Whether the list provides encyclopedic value that wouldn't be available by a simple link to the composer's website is a different question – which should be discussed at WP:AfD. In my view, it doesn't, but I don't think the list is damaging Wikipedia, so I'll keep that opinion to myself. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 22:57, 20 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Bednarek, Smerus, I'm declining this sort of hesitantly because I can see Michael's point. There are only so many different ways that someone could re-write a list of facts in this manner, so this isn't really the type of copyright violation that would be a really clear and clean speedy. I can see this getting potentially overturned at DRV if someone wanted to push the point, for example. This could be brought to AfD, but I think that the best option here would be to merge and redirect this to Finnissy's page since neither article is particularly lengthy enough to really warrant a content fork. Typically speaking, most lists of creative materials have to be fairly lengthy in order to truly warrant a separate entry, like List of compositions by Ludwig van Beethoven or Stephen King bibliography. This could stand to be cleaned up some to put it more layman's terms since some of the content doesn't make sense to non-musicians (like 2.1.1.1-1.1.1.0-perc-hp-pno-str 13'), but I'll leave that up to someone more familiar with compositions. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡) 06:15, 21 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]