Talk:List of cities in Wales

List of cities in Wales was nominated as a Geography and places good article, but it did not meet the good article criteria at the time (April 25, 2022). There are suggestions on the review page for improving the article. If you can improve it, please do; it may then be renominated.

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GA Review

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Reviewer: Steelkamp (talk · contribs) 06:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I will be reviewing this article for Good Article status. Expect comments soon. Steelkamp (talk) 06:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This article is a list. I am aware that this article is too short to become a featured list. I am also aware that there is precedent for short lists becoming good articles. Examples include List of counties in Delaware, List of battleships of Greece, and List of battleships of Spain. I will not be failing the review based on this being a list.

From my judgement, this article falls significantly short of good article criterion 3: Broad in its coverage. Compare this to List of cities in the United Kingdom. That article has significant amounts of prose. Here are some things that are missing:

The process of becoming a city. How a town becomes a city. What criteria are there, if any. Even if there is some duplication from another article, this needs to be explained in this article.
The story behind each city becoming a city. I notice on St Davids, St Asaph and Bangor, Gwynedd, there is an entire section on each of those articles dedicated to city status. I even see on St Davids that it used to be a city, then it was not a city, then it became a city again. Each city has a story behind becoming a city, and it would be good to include here as well.
Questions I have when reading the article include whether the city bids are just for Welsh cities, or for the entire United Kingdom, why a picture of the cathedral from each city is important enough for the table (not saying it's not, but it is something that should be explained to the reader in prose).

There are good aspects of the article as well. I like the map. I like the table. I like the sourcing. But it is significantly short in coverage. Due to falling significantly short of one of the good article criteria, I have to quickfail this review. Look at the other list good articles I said above to see what kind of scope I am looking for.

– Steelkamp (talk) 06:47, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much for your time and your pointers. Titus Gold (talk) 11:59, 25 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

cathedrals

the inclusion of a "cathedral" column seems entirely arbitrary to me. why do we have both Anglican & Catholic cathedrals listed together, as if they're interchangeable? the Catholic and Anglican churches have completely separate jurisdictional structures, and nothing in the very little prose on this list explains why this is in the table. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 01:09, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Sawyer777 True, the status is no longer dependent on Anglican cathedrals, so no purpose really. Be free to remove the column. Dank Jae 09:43, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for responding - done. ... sawyer * he/they * talk 17:22, 30 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]