Talk:List of castles in Jordan

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Nonsensical page

... created by someone permanently blocked from editing.

The page makes little sense, as the damn DEFINITION is more than lacking. WHAT IS IT MEANT TO BE ABOUT? Mind pls that this is English Wiki, so the answer cannot be: whatever is called qal'a or qasr in Arabic.

A lot of significant periods have been left out. Why?

There have been fortified sites ever since the Neolithic.

There are major Bronze and Iron Age sites.

I don't know about the Neo-Assyrians, Neo-Babylonians and Persians, but there have been Hellenistic fortifications. Then Nabataean ones.

Romans built castra and other types of fortified buildings. So did the Byzantines or the Ghassanids.

The Early Muslim period saw lots of Umayyad qusur being built, but apparently not just those.

Crusaders built castles, forts, and fortified cities. So did the Ayyubids and Mamluks who fought against them, as well as against one another and local tribes.

All did build fortified caravanserais (khans or manzils), with the Ottomans more than others.

If these categories would be treated separately, with proper introductions, this page would start making sense. As of now, it doesn't. It's one big confusion of terms and categories of structures related to military architecture (and I'm not even starting to talk about other individual painful mistakes, like Shaubak being in the Arabah).

Can the page pls be deleted, i.e. relegated to a sandbox until someone has pity on it?

If not: pls at least rename (move) it. Mind that "castle" has a very narrow and specific meaning in English. Arminden (talk) 01:24, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@HeyElliott, Bruxton, DB1729, Trivialist, Joe Roe, Delqa, Govvy, and Fram: hi. I see you've put some effort into it. Do you want to save it? Arminden (talk) 01:38, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Put effort in? Far as I am concerned this is a valid topic, however it's far from complete, there are 40+ known castles and palaces of such structure if not more. Govvy (talk) 18:58, 1 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]