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Allen Tate

Converted to Catholicism in 1950 and remained so until his death. His Catholicism is widely known and his inclusion here because he was once an atheist is a little absurd, unless you change the title of this list to "List of people professing nontheism at one point or another in their lives". Therefore, I'm removing his name. Corbmobile (talk) 08:36, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I doubt that whoever listed him here was aware of his conversion. We do have a list of former atheists and agnostics, and I will add him there. Thank you for helping improve the accuracy of this list. Nick Graves (talk) 15:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jimbo Wales

Was removed from the list per this remark. Noting here for the record.--Scott Mac 15:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mao Zedong

I have a couple of problems with his inclusion here. The criteria for inclusion are the following: "Living persons in this list are people whose atheism is relevant to their notable activities or public life, and who have publicly self-identified as atheists." Then Mao Zedong misses on both counts. It could be said that China became officially atheist after Mao took over, but that still says nothing about whether or not Mao himself was an atheist. He might just believe that atheism--as state "ethos" or philosophy--would produce the most good. Furthermore, this quote is hearsay. Something from the horse's mouth is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dniete97 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You misunderstand. It is not a list of only living people. However, we have stricter criteria for living people than for the deceased. We need something from the horse's mouth only for the living. Otherwise standard reliable sources are fine. I reverted you.Griswaldo (talk) 16:41, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I concur with Gris. Mao was a major leader in communism (an atheist ideology), established an atheist state, and is identified as an atheist by a reliable source. He is not living, so we do not need a statement "from the horse's mouth." Nick Graves (talk) 00:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How is communism an "atheist ideology"? -- Scjessey (talk) 14:06, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the People's Republic of China does practice state atheism I believe, as did the USSR. I am not sure that communism, as an ideology, always has to be atheistic. Mao's communism appears to have been as far as I can tell and I think that is the point really.Griswaldo (talk) 14:49, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth, the Mao wiki article lists his religion as atheist.

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