Talk:List of Yo Gabba Gabba! episodes
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Initial issues
[edit]Having just recently broken the episodes list out from the main article, there are still a number of issues to resolve:
- Most of the data needs to be verified. For instance The Aquabats "Pool Party" is listed as the SuperMusic Friends Show tune for at least 5 different season 1 shows, incorrectly; air dates have no sources cited, and there are fundamental HTML structural problems with the markup.
- The tables would likely benefit from using a template structure.
- The Story Time column should be converted to a generic "Segments" data column that would incorporate a wider variety of content from the episodes.
- Consider moving the other media releases, (DVD, etc.) to this page from the main article.
--RossO (talk) 16:00, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
Tasks for March 2014
[edit]After I complete the verification and restyling of season 3, I plan on tackling the following items.
Recolor the season 4 table to use the red from the YGG logo. This will make the seasons follow the same color scheme of yellow red blue yellow red blue.Migrate unaired Season 4 episodes into Season 4 section.Verify the original air dates from MSN TVTV Guide, and IMDb.Reorder the episodes based on production code.Add the writing credits. (I started putting the writing credits in HTML comments after the Director credit starting in the middle of season 2.)Make sure the "Numbers" segment is correctly labeled in each episode. (The segment is erroneously listed as "Counting" in season 1.)Double check the guests and SMFS bands for wikilinks.Find verification for the contents of episode Clubhouse.
(It is amazing how much false and made up data was added to the episodes list originally.)
--RossO (talk) 20:34, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
Tasks for April / May 2014
[edit]Still looking to finish off the listing with the following items:
- Find verification for the contents of the pilots as well as episodes Flying and Pets.
- Verify the cast's songs titles against the music CD releases track listings.
Almost done.
--RossO (talk) 22:02, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
Restoration of production codes vs. episode numbers
[edit]Hi @RossO:, I don't think I understand this edit--what is the source for these production codes? And why would we favor them over a regular numerical order based on airdates? In my experience most of the production codes in kids' TV articles are totally fabricated. Grazie, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:37, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- Greetings @Cyphoidbomb: This edit is a restoration of production codes that were on the page up until November 26 so basically, I'm restoring what a blocked vandal changed. Walking this back, you'll see that the vandal's numbers were simply simply enumerating the list that was in order of production codes, so his edit was removing a relevant number and adding an arbitrary numbering that would be unique to the Wikipedia listing. Furthermore, the episodes are not in order of release date. If you look at the Original Air Dates by year, this is the list you get:
- 2007, 2008, 2009, 2008, 2011, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2009, 2011, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2010, 2011, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2011, 2012, 2015, 2013, 2015, 2013, 2015
- The original air dates are not also not backed up by any consistent sources; they are only approximately correct for the US. However, sorting the list by production codes closely follows the organization of the releases in the iTunes and Vudu stores as well as other commercial sources.
- I have tried to find other episode listings on Wikipedia that discuss if episode numbers are supposed to be sourced, but came up empty. See my discussion with LightandDark2000 and the reference in there to the removal of a relevant category. RossO (talk) 18:12, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @RossO:, thanks for the note. Vandal aside for the moment, I'm still not certain I see the value in ordering these episodes by what is, for all intents and purposes, an imaginary numbering system. Sometimes we get lucky and the episode #s are present in the copyright records but that is not the case here with the exception of "Adventure" and "Doctor", which appear to be episodes 302 and 304 respectively. What makes more sense to me is that we: 1) Correct the airdates. 2) Order the episodes by airdate, (as we do with most TV ep lists). 3) Number the episodes accordingly. That is, "this episode aired 20th in the series". 4) Drop drop the unsourced episode codes. 5) If in the future we get our hands on an accurate episode code list, we can add that column, and it will tell the story that the episode that aired 20th, was actually produced 23rd (or whatever the case may be.) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:37, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- @Cyphoidbomb: I am ecstatic to see the LOC link you noted above. I had been looking for something like that to reference, but obviously I'm also disappointed that the YGG eps are not listed. I like your plan for the listing, but I'm stuck on step 1: I cannot find a good canonical list of first the air dates on US TV. There are a few that have been noted via press releases, but that's less than 10% of the list. I will also note that I have found documentation for the Production Numbers, but they are not from a public web site, and I'm not sure how to cite them. RossO (talk) 18:03, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hi @RossO:, thanks for the note. Vandal aside for the moment, I'm still not certain I see the value in ordering these episodes by what is, for all intents and purposes, an imaginary numbering system. Sometimes we get lucky and the episode #s are present in the copyright records but that is not the case here with the exception of "Adventure" and "Doctor", which appear to be episodes 302 and 304 respectively. What makes more sense to me is that we: 1) Correct the airdates. 2) Order the episodes by airdate, (as we do with most TV ep lists). 3) Number the episodes accordingly. That is, "this episode aired 20th in the series". 4) Drop drop the unsourced episode codes. 5) If in the future we get our hands on an accurate episode code list, we can add that column, and it will tell the story that the episode that aired 20th, was actually produced 23rd (or whatever the case may be.) Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:37, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
- @RossO: Hey, cool, glad to have helped! :) Typically for TV articles we use one of a variety of sources. MSN.COM, Zap2It, TVGuide.com. It's an imperfect science, as there are often disparities between the sources. For instance, MSN lists "Mermaids" as S4E7, air date March 3, 2012, which TVGuide.com is in agreement with. Zap2It, however, doesn't seem to be aware of "Mermaids"' existence. And MSN and TVGuide seems to be unaware of more recent episodes like "Day Camp" and "Restaurant". This would all seem to be more of a reason to list the episodes according to airdates.
- @Cyphoidbomb: It's interesting that you mentioned the "Mermaids" episode because that was one of the reasons why I stopped thinking of MSN and TV Guide as reliable sources here. My son was very much into seeing new episodes of YGG at the time, and I clearly recall that Nick Jr was having a 'theme' month of Mermaid episodes across their programs. However, for some reason, the YGG episode never made it to air. I can only guess why this happened, but it ended up in TV Guide and MSN's history, never to be corrected. As far as I've been able to find it is one of the three that have not been aired as of January 2015.
- To your comment about having difficulty sourcing something that isn't a public website, Wikipedia allows the sourcing of books, periodicals, TV episodes and a few other types of sources (see here for some other examples although some templates might be deprecated.) The problem is whether or not the document you are looking at is accessible to anyone else--that is, if it's something that can be verified by other editors, for instance if it can be found at a library, then it should meet WP:V. If it's just an internal document from Nickelodeon or something, that would not make the cut.
- And here we have the Siracusaianesque issue that I've been running up against here. Particularly when dealing with less-than-earth shaking issues of numbering a children's show's episodes. I'm working to get these pieces of information released but it's difficult to get them somewhere that meets WP:V and attains notability. A) Obviously the episodes have been broadcast, but there are only unreliable sources for those dates. B) Obviously the shows were produced in a certain order, but the actual listing and numbering of them is not worth being published. C) And yet we want some sense of the order that they should be put onto the page. The next option, I suppose would be simply to list the episodes in alphabetical order by episode title. Yet that goes against the style of every other show listing on WP.
- I notice that you've been around for a number of years, but you're more of an on-again/off-again editor. If at any point you feel that I'm talking down to you by going into too much detail about WP:V or cite templates, for example, please let me know; I have no intention of trying to alienate you, and I have a pretty thick skin, so I can take the adjustment. I just happen to be somewhat familiar with WikiProject Television norms. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:13, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
- I've tried to pitch in as I can and found a niche that I felt I could really help with. The YGG! stuff was in complete disarray when I started but I have all of the episodes that have been broadcast on Nick Jr. so I've been able to provide at least a basis from which all further arguments could start from, and if changes were to come in, we would have the ability to request cited sources for any changes to the listing and the details. For instance this edit is completely random and is actually a vandalism, though it's a completely imaginable segment. I see the Production Codes/Episode Numbering to be a similar situation. But you're right: I'm not a native Wikipedian, I'm only a serial day-tripper so perhaps this is something that I need to learn the hard way. Your guidance is both expected and necessary. I'm not here to push an agenda, I'd just like the page to look professional and be reliable. RossO (talk) 19:22, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2015
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Airing of the remaining three episodes
[edit]It looks like Nick Jr will finally air the last of the unaired episodes during the month of November, at least according to my TiVo listing. The first, "Show" (which was also known as "Gabba Revue" by some sources) aired on Monday. The next is Mermaids, due today (Wednesday) and Quest will wrap up the set on Thursday. I'll try and have the final details and credits added after each broadcast. At that point, I'd like to do a final character-by-character edit to get this nailed down. --RossO (talk) 19:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
All known episodes have been broadcast
[edit]The final episodes have been broadcast on Nick Jr. as far as anyone can tell. Unlike the last wave in early 2015, this set of episodes did not have a press release coming out to herald their arrival. However, all of the 13 episodes that were ordered for the fourth season are present and accounted for.
The delay between production and the actual broadcast has lead to a situation where this series is oddly unsupported. I don't think we'll ever get a 'final episodes' press release nor a posting on the Magic Shop web site that will detail the ending of the series. I guess the last thing to do here is to double check the episodes, one-by-one and see that everything is listed correctly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RossO (talk • contribs) 20:02, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
Continued Vandalsim
[edit]It seems that Yo Gabba Gabba episodes list is a great target for general mucking around. Since the Revision as of 2016-06-06T13:00:01 there have only been a few small additions of any consequence, mostly around the full names for some guests. I or someone else should revert most of the changes and roll forward the name additions. RossO (talk) 02:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
Seriously? Season 5?
[edit]The vandalism on this article is truly unfortunate. We may debate the exact titles of some of the songs and segments, but adding a fictitious 5th season is beyond the pale. — RossO (talk) 17:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- @RossO: Fixed EvergreenFir (talk) 18:07, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- @EvergreenFir: Thanks. That was quick and dealt with those particular vandalisms, so I thank you. But there's a lot noise on these pages (Ep 404 is broken entirely, other eps have had the credits messed with) and the number of edits of a show that's been off the air for years is amazing. I'd love to see this page become semi-protected. — RossO (talk) 19:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- @RossO: I already submitted a request to WP:RPP for semi-protection. Hopefully an admin will grant it. EvergreenFir (talk) 23:03, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
- @EvergreenFir: Thanks. That was quick and dealt with those particular vandalisms, so I thank you. But there's a lot noise on these pages (Ep 404 is broken entirely, other eps have had the credits messed with) and the number of edits of a show that's been off the air for years is amazing. I'd love to see this page become semi-protected. — RossO (talk) 19:24, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Episodes (and seasons) need to be arranged in Airing Order
[edit]Leaving the production codes in the episode tables is fine, but the episodes (and the seasons) need to be arranged in terms of airing order, not in terms of production code order. This is standard WP:TV practice on Wikipedia. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:53, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
"Gabba Revue"
[edit]Only 13 episodes were ordered for season 4, according to this article, but a fourteenth episode called "Gabba Revue" was added with a reference to the vandalized YGG wiki. This hoax comes from a misnaming of the episode "Show", which was accidentally picked up by sites like Trakt and IMDB. There are only 13 episodes on Vudu and Amazon Video. Juqo (talk) 19:00, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
- It also looks like this confusion happened before on the TVDB: [1] Juqo (talk) 19:01, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
Unused Storytime Segment
[edit]On September 22, 2008 when the episode "Birthdays" arrive, there was an unused segment called "The Birthday Jigglypuff" (here credited as "Jigglypuff's Birthday") where it was about a Jigglypuff's birthday, it was originally gonna be used after the Cool Tricks segment, but that was unused and cut. So, it was corrected on May 15, 2009 when it aired.
This is usually cut from most broadcast versions and the Birthday Boogie DVD to avoid references from Pokémon, except YouTube the Lily's Birthday and Birthday Playdates DVD. TroyWhite123 (talk) 01:25, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Differences From "Birthdays"
[edit]There are some minor differences between the original and new version
- The length of the Jingle was 1:00 in the original version and 1:46 in the new version.
- The performer is credited as Tiger Ryder in the original version and Tyler Stewart in the new version.
- After the Cool Tricks segment, there is a Storytime where it was about a Jigglypuff’s Birthday so, her sister, a Wigglytuff gets presents and bakes a cake for her, this was cut from the original version to avoid references from Pokémon.
- The voice of Brobee Cake was originally sounded like a child in the original version, and sounded liked Murray from Sesame Street in the new version.
- The new version can be found on rerun versions of the original version, as well as the DVDs, Lily's Birthday and Birthday Play dates.
- In the credits, it says "Tyler Stewart appears courtesy of Barenaked Ladies" right before The Magic Store credits shows up. TroyWhite123 (talk) 22:23, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Differences from "Ride"
[edit]There are a couple of differences from the original version and the new version:
- In the credits, the performer of "Ride Ride Ride" was Tyler Stewart
- A Wilhelm scream sound effect is heard when Muno crashes and gets hurt. This sound effect didn’t appear on the original version. TroyWhite123 (talk) 01:43, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Good Day Sunshine on Yo Gabba Gabba
[edit]There was a cover of Good Day Sunshine preformed by They Might Be Giants that originally appeared on the Blue's Room episode "Springtime Sunny Day" and it's animation was done by Australian-Canadian animator, CUPCO!.
It made it's way to the episode "Weather" replacing the Super Music Friends Show segment on new versions.
Good Day Sunshine was recorded in Big Blue Studios in the summer of 2017 and was written by John Linnell and Luke Temby. The music video was made in August 2017, where Luke Temby was unable to find a daytime background, so he used one of Stuart Lynch's background illustrations and places his animations on it, which are the same ones from "Happy Birthday". First the female pink creature, then the female creature is joined by the others and finally, we get to see the jumping creatures. Flansburgh can be heard saying "she fells good" at 1:27 and when this happens, another character is shown walking with the anamorphic flowing pots and the chorus, we show the hugging ones on grass while the flower pots move to the right. The ending shows the female creature looking and winks at us.
John Linnell: Lead vocals, programming, piano, saxophone
John Flansburgh: guitar, timpani, programming, vocals
Danny Weinkauf: double bass, handclaps
Marty Beller: drums, cymbals
Dan Miller: clavinet solo
John Linnell said in a interview: "We did two covers of In My Life and Good Day Sunshine, the former was animated by Luke Temby, one of my collaborations and the latter is animated by Kaj Pindal one of my long time collaborations with them, I was like, dang, it was smart to import a background illustration to do animations and one of outtakes that the timpani was so loud, it hurt my ears!" TroyWhite123 (talk) 02:09, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
Season 2
[edit]Change its end date to February 27,2009 47.36.34.103 (talk) 23:41, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
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