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Five aces on this list were found in a source that does not offer a victory-by-victory listing to verify that they are aces. Awards and honors are also missing, so that their notability cannot be determined. These aces are Joseph Siegel, Franz Oberst, Vincenz Mageri, Benko Karoly, and Wedige von Froreich. They are on this list provisionally, and as a consequence of the dearth of data, have yet to be entered on List of World War I flying aces.

Two other fairly high-scoring aces are listed here and at List of World War I flying aces because their victory lists check out. However, they are considered non-notable because it isn't known if they were awarded medals, decorations, or honors by Austria-Hungary, despite their being the 8th and 9th ranking aces of the Empire. However, Stefan Feje's photo at http://www.theaerodrome.com/aces/austrhun/fejes.php shows him wearing a row of medals on his uniform, and it is unlikely that Ernst Strohschneider's 15 victories went unrewarded. Again, all info is welcome.

Georgejdorner (talk) 21:17, 4 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fejes, Strohschneider, Kenzian, Udvardy all verified as notable. Changes are afoot.

Georgejdorner (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In O'Connor's "Air Aces of the Austro-Hungarian Empire":

Seigel = only shown in a photo
von Froreich = 4 confirmed victories
Magerl = 1 victory while piloting Weber
Franz Oberst = 4 confirmed victories
Karoly is unmentioned.

Georgejdorner (talk) 17:26, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Let's discuss any changes

Hello, all,

I realize this list contains information that may tend to spark volatile action from some editors. In the interests of WP:NPOV, and of an improved list, changes to this list should be both discussed and verifiable, and not just a matter of opinion. An ongoing courteous dialogue will nicely serve WP's purpose.

I thank all in advance for their civility.

Georgejdorner (talk) 16:21, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]