Talk:List of Volkswagen Group engines

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Volkswagen Group terminology

I'd appreciate a third opinion on the following disputes which are currently unresolved in this and other related articles:

Should Volkswagen Group or its parent/holding company, Volkswagen AG, be referred to as "VWAG" in WP articles, even when there is no real need to abbreviate the name in the article? As has been previously pointed out by another editor on another talk page, this particular abbreviation doesn't seem to be in particularly common use, either by the Group itself (it's only found in six out of hundreds of English corporate documents on the http://www.volkswagenag.com website) or in secondary sources (searching the websites of the popular English-language automotive press, eg. Car Magazine, Motor Trend or Car and Driver, finds no occurrences), so I don't see how the use of it in WP articles really improves the clarity or accuracy of the article. In addition, referring to the Group as "VWAG" would lead to confusion between the Group and parent company - Volkswagen AG's 2008 annual report [1] makes a clear distinction between the two. A more common abbreviation for the Group, often used in the press, [2] is the fairly obvious "VW Group".

Should Volkswagen Group be referred to as a "conglomerate"? - I would disagree, based on the dictionary definition of "conglomerate" [3] - I don't believe VW Group's businesses [4] are sufficiently diverse for it to be described as a conglomerate.

Letdorf (talk) 21:19, 15 February 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Third opinion: Honestly, the abbreviation seems a little excessive. "VW Group" seems fine. As to the conglomerate, from what I can tell about the structure of VW, it shouldn't be referred to as such. Compare to Mitsubishi, which is actually one big company with a bunch of subsidiaries that act somewhat autonomously. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 03:55, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Clarification: 3Os are normally relevant only on the page where they're given, but in this case it seems that what I wrote could be applied to other places. Obviously what I wrote isn't scripture, but I'd like to think that if a bunch of people agree on how to represent something and only one person is opposed to it, the consensus should win. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 14:54, 18 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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