Talk:List of United States senators in the 1st Congress

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Requested move 2 May 2021

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Moved as proposed. Consensus is clear, as is the rationale for moving these pages where there is no other set of lists ordering United States senators in individual congresses. BD2412 T 05:09, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

– We don't have any other lists of US senators in each congress. The sorting of the list is a secondary function and it doesn't make sense to include that in the list title, being concise matters more here. Elli (talk | contribs) 01:36, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Individual Congress pages list senators by State. If anything, I'd expect them to be listed by state here too. Is there a plan to integrate those lists here too? If it is merely listing by seniority alone, then that is different. Walrasiad (talk) 21:48, 2 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Walrasiad: not sure - I'm just suggesting a rename here, so probably not. Elli (talk | contribs) 02:08, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

But this would not be the common or expected way of seeing a list of Senators. The ordering by seniority seems to be the only purpose of this list. This would be like "List of countries by GDP" or "List of countries by life expectancy", where the purpose is not to list countries, but to list them in a particular order. Wikipedia has plenty of such lists.

And shouldn't be this move be considered jointly with Category:Lists of members of the United States House of Representatives by seniority? Walrasiad (talk) 04:06, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support per nom. Including the sorting category in the title breaks WP:CONSISTENT with virtually all other Wikipedia lists, so it makes sense to drop it for consistency as well as conciseness. Combefere ❯❯❯ Talk 03:38, 3 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Rreagan007 (talk) 17:21, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. –LaundryPizza03 (d c̄) 06:39, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Pro-Administration / Federalist

In the Introduction, it is mentioned that there were no parties at the time and that the senators are therefore labeled as Pro- or Anti-Administration. The shorthand for Pro-Administration is designated as P, but is never used in the actual table, which instead uses F and links to the wiki page on the Federalist Party, which, as I understand it, had its origins in the Pro-Administration-Faction. The different shorthands seem a bit confusing to me, but I don't know enough about the topic to know if it should be changed, and if so, to what. Could anyone with more knowledge on the matter please weigh in? Andrith (talk) 11:01, 12 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Andrith,

Pro-Administration Party (United States) is a Redirect to Federalist Party. In German-language WP we have a stub de:Pro-Administration Party, whether this would suit en-WP as well I don't know. Perrak (talk) 09:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]