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Proposed Merger

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I have proposed that this page should be merged with Federal Bureau of Prisons, because all of the prisons on this list fall under the Bureau's control. --TommyBoy 05:05, 31 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion on the proposed merger is pending on the talk page for Federal Bureau of Prisons. --TommyBoy 12:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Three comments on Talk:Federal Bureau of Prisons (including my own) opposed this merge, so I have deleted the merge tags on both pages and removed the proposal from Wikipedia:Proposed mergers. | Klaw ¡digame! 22:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

can this be expanded

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I wouldnt venture an opinion on merging, but this list is very austere. Can the links be expanded? Thanks Tazinnm 05:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Making the Page more useful

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As a citizen of a country without a federal government I visited this site to find out what a Federal Prison was as I had never before heard the term. The site gives a list of facilities but not the information I was seeking. If anyone has the knowledge/interest an expansion would be very appreciated. Orcafound 06:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Orcafound, This article is about the list of the prisons and is not about prison system. Please see the Federal Bureau of Prisons article for information about the system. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:26, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the United States there are 50 states each state has its own laws,rules,regulations,if you break any of these you are tried by that state Justic System and inprison in that state. Then we have a seperate Government in Our Capital call the Federal Government which has the power under our Constituion to creat laws, rules and regulations that all citizens must abide by outside of the law's of the individual state in which he or she lives in. The Federal Government has its own Prisons,Correctional Centers, Immigration Prisons (I call them that, they call them holding centers). If you violate any of the Federal Laws,Rules,Regulations, you are inprison by the Federal Government in one of its prisons. You may live in New York City and commit a Federal Crime and be inprisoned in California. It is all up to the Federal Bureau of Prison where they place you. If you commit a State Crime you are placed in a State Prison which usually is not far from your home. In the Federal System you may be placed as far away as thousand's of miles, making it inpossible for you to see your family or love one's until your release. One other thing amount prisoners it is a well know fact that to do state time is short time but hard time. To do Federal Time it is Good time but Long time. Most States do not give prison time for non violent offense 10 years. But the Federal Government does. It starts you off with 10 years. Most Countries outside of the United States have one Set of Law for all the people to follow. Here we have Town Laws, County Laws, City Laws, State Laws, and Then Federal Laws. This is only an example of the many laws the average person here in the United States must have knowledge of to stay out of any of there prisons. Now you can understand why so many of our people are in prison than any other nation in the world. No one can remeber all the laws they must abide by so every person breaks one law,rule,regulation of one of the above bodies every minute of the day. I hope this helps. By Orcafound Orcafound 06:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please keep WP:FORUM in mind and that this this article is about the list of the prisons and is not about prison system nor how and why a person may end up in prison. You may be interested in the Incarceration in the United States article. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:26, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Incomplete

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It is missing, for instance, Englewood Federal Detention Center, and probably a lot of other detention centers. They are, perhaps, lumping Englewood FDC's population in with Englewood FCI. http://www.bop.gov/locations/weekly_report.jsp Tisane (talk) 03:18, 22 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was doing some research on federal facilities and found the BOP official list seemed to be missing a few. I came here and found the ones that were missing, but saw that this page was missing quite a few from the BOP site in turn. Here is a large table comparing what I found:
Jptiger0 (talk) 15:37, 23 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

List by short name

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Is this section really necessary? I'd like to remove it as redundant... MDEVER802 (talk) 05:31, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Very belatedly… I added the list because it gave a comprehensive tally of all of the federal prisons without regard to type, making it easy to find a specific institution by name, something I want at least once a month (and without resorting to a "find" function, especially since I look up prisons that may be purely fictional, since they are mentioned on television dramas). It also allowed users to sort all prisons by location, which the current article does not. IMHO it was not redundant. Would you please consider adding it back, or allowing me to do so?—DocWatson42 (talk) 07:04, 12 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Hello?—DocWatson42 (talk) 06:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Hello?—DocWatson42 (talk) 10:13, 14 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Something missing

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"Federal Correctional Institutions (FCIs) are medium-security and low-security facilities, which have strengthened perimeters (often double fences with electronic detection systems), mostly cell-type housing, a wide variety of work and treatment programs, as well as a higher staff-to-inmate ratio and greater internal controls than low-security FCIs." - the sentence {probably should be 2 sentences) needs text to make the distinction attempted in the final phrase between medium and low-security FCIs. It could be done by putting a period after 'programs' and beginning a new sentence that would read. "Medium-security FCIs have a higher staff-to-inmate ratio and greater internal controls than low-security FCIs." Alternatively, the phrase could be considered as stating the (to me) obvious, and deleting it. Irish Melkite (talk) 09:48, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Should we list Correctional Institutions?

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I noticed the lead has "This list does not include military prisons, state prisons, jails, or prisons operated under contract to the Federal Bureau of Prisons by private companies or local governments."

The BOP web site has:

As the BOP provides us with a list of the Correctional Institutions it seems like a reasonable source for including them on Wikipedia. They are private prisons being used to house federal prisoners.

Name Location Operator
Adams County CI Natchez, MS Corrections Corporation of America
Big Spring CI Big Spring, TX The GEO Group, Inc.
Cibola County CI Milan, NM Corrections Corporation of America
D. Ray James CI Folkston, GA The GEO Group, Inc.
Eden CI Eden, TX Corrections Corporation of America
Giles W. Dalby CI Post, TX Management & Training Corporation
McRae CI McRae, GA Corrections Corporation of America
Moshannon Valley CI Philipsburg, PA The GEO Group, Inc.
NE Ohio Corr Ctr CI Youngstown, OH Corrections Corporation of America
Reeves I & II CI Pecos, TX The GEO Group, Inc. (for Reeves County)
Reeves III CI Pecos, TX The GEO Group, Inc. (for Reeves County)
Rivers CI Winton, NC The GEO Group, Inc.
Taft CI Taft, CA Management & Training Corporation
Willacy County CI Raymondville, TX Management & Training Corporation

The Cibola County CI located in Milan, New Mexico is not the same as Federal Correctional Institution, Milan which is in Michigan.

There is both an FCI and CI in Big Spring, Texas.

  • The Federal Correctional Institution, Big Spring is located at 1900 SIMLER AVE, BIG SPRING, TX 79720. The Wikipedia article says "The facility also has a satellite prison camp which houses minimum-security male offenders." There is no citation given for this but this may be the Big Spring CI.
  • The Big Spring CI is located at 1701 APRON DRIVE, BIG SPRING, TX 79720.

--Marc Kupper|talk 00:01, 2 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support: This is useful information.—DocWatson42 (talk) 04:14, 12 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What kind of facility would a female with a "living in a place to maintain, manufacture and use herion" be placed? First federal trial and no violent crimes ever.

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Just like to know a little about how the prisons are ran. What to expect, do you wear your clothes, have commissary, bring children, what kind of programs are offered? Shayxan17 (talk) 03:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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RfC: Creating a summary table

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@NapoliRoma, Wallyfromdilbert, Pauli133, Lotje, JJMC89, Ian P. Tetriss, BrownHairedGirl, MaxwellPerkins, Lockley, and Cuprum17: Recent editors: What do you think of adding a table summarizing the federal facilities, similar to what I did here, but with the current information? —DocWatson42 (talk) 16:13, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DocWatson42: taking a look at the page now, just wondering if the facebook link in the reference section is some kind over advertising. :-) Lotje (talk) 16:29, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Lotje: Deleted. Thank you for pointing that out. :-) —DocWatson42 (talk) 16:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DocWatson42, I'm a little confused. Is this about adding the "List by short name" table? I'm not too concerned about bloat in a list article, but if something like that is added, I would be more comfortable if it had sourcing to verify it. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 00:47, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Wallyfromdilbert: Yes. As for sources, I would use the tables already in the article (as I did before), with the exception of the private correctional institutions and former federal facilities, which I propose to exclude from the table. If you are referring to the "short names", they seem self evident to me. Or are your referring to something else? It also seems to me that it would be a good idea to include a separate column for the "Includes female inmates"/"Female-only facility" notations, hopefully a sortable column. (@Lotje: I further cleaned up the two Washington Post references.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 05:58, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DocWatson42: I do think matt.zapotosky is advertising on Facebook... :-) Lotje (talk) 06:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
very interesting... Lotje (talk) 06:19, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Lotje: <sigh> I don't have the energy right now to clean that up. :-( —DocWatson42 (talk) 06:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DocWatson42: just tell me how to proceed and I'll do it for you. Take a good night sleep in the meantime. :-) Lotje (talk) 06:40, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Lotje: Thank you. Delete the Facebook link(s) and (ideally) reformat the references to CS1/Template:Cite news, with the basic, standard fields filled in (author/date/title/url/work/access-date). As for me, this is early-ish for me, but I didn't get much sleep today. —DocWatson42 (talk) 06:46, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
DocWatson42, what is the new list adding to the article? I'm still confused about its purpose if it is just repeating information already in the other tables. Also, I don't think the "short names" are necessarily self-evident without sourcing. For example, in my experience, "USP Lee" is called "Lee County" not "Lee", and "USP Florence Administrative Maximum" is called "ADX" or less commonly "Florence ADMAX" and "ADX Florence". – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 01:09, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Wallyfromdilbert: Then perhaps "short name" is a (ahem) misnomer, and can be left out. To me, what the table did and would do is consolidate the information, so that locations can be compared across the entirety of the system (where the prisons are), and make it easy to find a prison without know what type it is, using only the name or location. If a column for the female facilities is included, then it would also make those much easier to find. E.g., if I want to find a federal prison called "Victorville" then I just sort the table alphabetically and look for the V's, rather than hunting through five different tables. (Yes, I could use my browser's find function, but with the single table I don't have to know the exact spelling.) —DocWatson42 (talk) 07:42, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see what you mean now, and thank you for the explanation. A single, sortable table consolidating the five may be useful, but if you are willing to work on the page, do what you want. Thanks again. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 02:16, 8 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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