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Hey and can you lock this page too because people keep putting Gwen and Courtney on the wrong teams and you saw the proof of the real teams. Thanks. 72.220.176.33 (talk) 19:47, 11 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Giggett many people keep switching the teams for Gwen and Courtney around can you lock this page up to avoid incorrect information? Thanks. 72.220.176.33 (talk) 01:04, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I know that Gwen is confirmed to be on the Villains team as seen in this picture, but I can't lock the article since I am not an admin, but I say just ignore the edits anyway since the tables won't be filled until the season starts airing. Giggett (talk) 03:56, 15 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gwen?

Gwen is evil this time? Courtney is good? How did this happen? Isn't Izzy supposed to compete this season? What is going on? — Preceding unsigned comment added by FameKillsMe (talk • contribs) 03:06, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Izzy will not compete in All-Stars and Gwen is confirmed to be on the Villains team as seen in this picture:

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130622231210/totaldramaisland/images/8/81/TDASopening.png

Giggett (talk) 18:58, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

This has vandalism done because the characters aren't confirmed, Dawn is a fan favorite not confirmed also — Preceding unsigned comment added by FameKillsMe (talk • contribs) 18:20, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you are right, the edits have been reverted. Giggett (talk) 18:58, 27 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Glad I could help, it wouldn't be bad if we saw Dawn again though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FameKillsMe (talk • contribs) 04:20, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, next time you see something like that, feel free to revert the edit yourself instead of asking someone else to do it. Giggett (talk) 19:35, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Elimination table

Where's the material on the table coming from, and why should it not be gutted for speculation and lack of reliable sources? —C.Fred (talk) 23:06, 18 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alejandro is confirmed to take the leave first, then Scott, then Jo, then Sierra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackie'sWorld (talk • contribs) 23:23, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmed by whom and where? It has to be a reliable source for the info to go in the table. —C.Fred (talk) 00:05, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed, there is a lot of unreferenced content being added to the article which is not permitted. --AussieLegend (✉) 02:40, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

They are obviously making it up, I say just leave the table empty for now until the season airs, which is only 2 weeks away by the way. Giggett (talk) 05:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Izzy & Owen

My dad works at Fresh TV, and he told me that Izzy and Owen are in the season. Owen premieres in episode 4, and Izzy in episode 5. Izzy is hero, Owen is villain — Preceding unsigned comment added by IloveAnn (talk • contribs) 00:58, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Best joke I've heard today Giggett (talk) 01:30, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hearsay of that nature is not valid as a reliable source. Further, since IloveAnn has declared a conflict of interest with the production company, (s)he should refrain from editing the article unless the edits are backed up by sources independent of Fresh TV. —C.Fred (talk) 02:48, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 2 October 2013

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KEMILLS0 (talk) 02:32, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah I know, I'm gonna update the TDAS table right now, sorry for taking too long Giggett (talk) 02:35, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You need to specify exactly what needs to be changed. --AussieLegend (✉) 02:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

He means to update the elimination table, which I already did. IP users cannot edit this article since it's semi-protected and I'm sure that he is not the only one who wanted to update the table. Giggett (talk) 02:56, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, when adding {{edit semi-protected}} you need to specify exactly what needs changing. Adding an empty request as the IP did is inappropriate and pointless. You can't guess as to what an editor means. --AussieLegend (✉) 02:58, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Episode summary lengths

MOS:TV specifies that episode summaries should be 100-200 words and this is reflected in the instructions for [[tl|Episode list}}. However, the episode summaries in this article exceed this significantly, with lengths for the first 4 episodes of 486, 406, 412 and 353 words respectively. These summaries really need to be pruned to a more reasonable size. --AussieLegend (✉) 03:39, 2 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What I think that the tables should look like

The current tables colors are way too tacky, they should just be reverted to the way they origianlly were

Total Drama All-Stars

Place	All-Star	Episodes
Place	All-Star	1	2	3	4	5²	6	7	8^M	9	10	11	12	13

TBA	♂ Alejandro	WIN	IN	IN	WIN	WIN	LOW⁴	WIN^E	WIN	IN^E	TBA
TBA	♀ Courtney	LOW	WIN	WIN¹	WIN	WIN	IN	WIN	IN	IN
TBA	♀ Gwen	WIN	IN	IN	WIN	WIN	IN	WIN	IN	WIN
TBA	♂ Mike	IN	WIN	WIN	IN	IN	WIN^E	IN	IN	IN
TBA	♂ Scott	WIN	IN	IN	WIN^E	WIN^E	IN	WIN	IN	IN
TBA	♀ Zoey	IN	WIN	WIN	IN	IN	WIN	IN	IN	IN
7	♂ Cameron	IN	WIN	WIN^E	IN	LOW³	IN	WIN	LOW⁶	OUT⁷
8	♂ Duncan	WIN	IN	IN¹	IN	IN	WIN	IN	LEFT⁶
9	♀ Sierra	IN	WIN	WIN	LOW	IN	WIN	OUT⁵
10	♀ Heather	WIN	IN	LOW	WIN	WIN	OUT
11	♂ Sam	IN	WIN^E	WIN	OUT
12	♀ Jo	WIN	LOW	OUT
13	♂ Lightning	WIN^E	OUT
14	♀ Lindsay	OUT

Tag	Description

^E	This volunteering camper from the winning team was exiled to Bony Island for the night to find the hidden McLean Invincibility Idol.
^M	The Heroic Hamsters and the Villainous Vultures merged in this episode.
¹	Duncan and Courtney switched teams in Episode 3, because in the challenge, they reversed roles as hero and villain.
²	This episode was a reward challenge, meaning no all-star was eliminated
³	Cameron was supposed to be eliminated, but Chris revealed that it was a fake elimination ceremony, so instead he put him on the Villainous Vultures.
⁴	Alejandro was supposed to be eliminated but he stole the immunity idol from Heather therefore causing Heather (second most amount of votes) to be eliminated.
⁵	The Villainous Vultures got to chose who to eliminate from the losing team, and they chose Sierra.
⁶	Duncan was arrested at the elimination ceremony for blowing up Chris' mansion, and was removed from the competition. After that, Cameron was supposed to be voted out (with the votes being tampered by Mal), but Chris said that since Duncan was already eliminated, Cameron was safe.
⁷	Cameron was disqualified by Chris, due to being to injured to compete in the game anymore.

Category	Color	Description

Honor Places		Winner of Total Drama All-Stars and $1,000,000.
		Runner-Up of Total Drama All-Stars.
		3rd Place.
Teams		Was on the Heroic Hamsters
Teams		Was on the Villainous Vultures
Challenge Wins		Won for their team (Episodes 1-7 (before the teams dissolved)).
		Won for themselves (Episodes 8-13 (after the teams dissolved)).
		Was on winning team, but didn’t help win (Episodes 1-7(before the teams dissolved)).
Elimination Ceremony Recipients
		Received a marshmallow at the campfire elimination ceremony.
		Received the final marshmallow at the campfire elimination ceremony or had the 2nd most amount of votes.
Eliminations		Was voted out by their fellow competitors.
		Left the competition.
		Disqualified from the competition.

Edit request on 20 October 2013

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Awesomepickle29 (talk) 18:47, 20 October 2013 (UTC) How can i edit???[reply]

Because you have just arrived at Wikipedia (welcome!), you cannot yet edit any semi-protected article, such as this one. If you have a particluar change you would like to make, and if it is supported by reliable sources, you can state the change here and alter answered=yes to answered=no near the top of this section. Someone will then check it out and, if it's OK, will make the edit for you. Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 19:01, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I can perform the edit, just tell me what you want me to do. Giggett (talk) 15:05, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Suckers Punched/You Regatta be Kidding me

Why is it I posted the Episode titles and they got removed? And someone else posted them, and they stayed? Why do you hate me, is it because I haven't been on Wikipedia as long as you have? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TDBiggestFan (talk • contribs) 00:28, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Your edits have generally been reverted because they were inappropriate, like this removal of a maintenance tag without addressing the identified problem, which you did again here. This addition was unsourced and, although there was a {{citation needed}} tag, which you deleted, you didn't add a source. This addition of episode titles was reverted because wikis are not reliable sources and can't be used a references. Also, you deleted the maintenance tag again. The same goes for this, where you also removed the maintenance tag for the fourth time. This was reverted because TBA is not an episode title and the episode summary was unsourced. In this edit you decided a combination would be good, removing the maintenance tag, adding unsourced summaries, episodes sourced to the wiki again as well as other unreliable sources and so on. In particular, adding ^{[unreliable source]} to the episode references is highly inappropriate. Everything added to Wikipedia has to be verifiable and adding that is an admission that you couldn't verify the content that you were adding. These edits were reverted because they were added before the episodes aired and, despite the note that clearly says "Future episode content requires a citation unless the episode summary is directly supported by the citation in the "RTitle" field", which you deleted, you added the content without citations. These edits were reverted because the citations that you added (in the wrong place) did not support the content. The summaries seemed to be original research, specifically WP:SYNTH. By comparison, this edit by an IP added an episode title with an appropriate source. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:52, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, that's probably the best edit analysis I have ever seen. I guess people here can't do anything without other people knowing about it. Giggett (talk) 16:04, 25 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 23 October 2013

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KEMILLS0 (talk) 03:18, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done, technically. :) No edit requested, so no edit made.

When requesting an edit, you need to indicate the specific changes to be made to the article (change X to Y based on reliable source Z). —C.Fred (talk) 03:27, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Not Courtney

Alejandro was eliminated, not Courtney... Mrmoustache14 (talk) 00:30, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry my bad, I'll change it. The people on the Total Drama chat told me it was Courtney, I guess they were wrong Giggett (talk) 00:34, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That's weird, she wasn't even in danger. Mike get's low and Zoey won the challenge by the way. Mrmoustache14 (talk) 00:37, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I just fixed the table, don't worry :) Giggett (talk) 00:38, 13 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mike, Mal, Manitoba?

I'm so confused, I don't know what we should call that character in the articles. He was first called Mike, but others say that he was originally called Mal, and since he has so many personalities, he has all these names, that it would be ridiculous to call him by all his six names, so I think that we should give him/her a new name for Wikipedia, like "MPD Male" or "Green Character" or "System C" or whatever, just not one of his six personality names to avoid confusion. What new name should we give him.

mistake on the elimation table

There,s been some mistake. The final episode is airing on Tuesday so I don,t really know if Mal or Zoey will win so please can you sort out that mistake? Thank you. --Bt3082 (talk) 17:14, 28 November 2013 (UTC)Brendan J Townsend[reply]

Both of them will win, the question is which alternate ending will be the official one from Canada, and we might not know that until 2014. Giggett (talk) 17:17, 28 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Gwen is REMOVED!!!

Gwen was removed from the season, not eliminated!!!!!! GOD! — Preceding unsigned comment added by TDBiggestFan (talk • contribs) 16:36, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The challenge rules were that any person who got last place was to be immediately eliminated, so Gwen was eliminated via the challenge Giggett (talk) 16:39, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

But she DID come back with her object, making her in second place, but was disqualified. TDBiggestFan (talk) 21:37, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In which case, we don't need a separate descriptor; let's go with D for disqualified. —C.Fred (talk) 21:57, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Character Deaths

Should it be noted that in episode 13 that many of the campers die, like Lindsay and Scott? They have died in the balloons..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.87.87.160 (talk) 20:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

YES TDBiggestFan (talk) 22:17, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Where did they encounter their deaths? All I saw was them floating in balloons where at some point they have to come back down again or get rescued by helicopter. Giggett (talk) 22:19, 3 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Suffocation, and Chris wouldn't help them at all, maybe Lindsay. Duncan may have gotten out, he had a bag on his back, unlike the rest. It is most likely that most of them have died, Chris probably wouldn't of helped Scott or Courtney. So unless proven false, they should be listed as deaths. TDBiggestFan (talk) 17:54, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Well either way we won't see those characters again since TDPI is the last season so yeah who cares. Giggett (talk) 17:56, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

that's not true. There are 10 PLANNED seasons. We may or may not see them again. TDBiggestFan (talk) 00:57, 6 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Too Short?

Do you think that this page may be too short to be it's own article. I mean, the episodes won't air until one year from now so expect empty tables with no information for 11 months. So I think that we should instead redirect this page for now to Total Drama: Pahkitew Island until August 1, 2014 when season trailers begin airing. Giggett (talk) 16:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was just thinking almost that. --AussieLegend (✉) 16:23, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Episode 1

The entire Episode 1 storyboard has been leaked online that confirms all the characters and what they do in Episode 1:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/172602730/Total-Drama-Phakitew-Island-Season-5-Ep-105-Uh-So-This-is-My-Team-Act-II

So who here wants to write a good Episode 1 summary? Giggett (talk) 22:22, 8 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Elimination Table

Since that the campers and first elimination is confirmed, don't we need an elimination table now TDBiggestFan (talk) 01:20, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The elimination table is already there, I just have it hidden since it's mostly empty and won't get filled up until 2014. Giggett (talk) 02:29, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Can't it be shown now. It has an elimination. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TDBiggestFan (talk • contribs) 15:42, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I know, but I am not revealing the table until 2014. Giggett (talk) 15:58, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Waitasec. Do we have multiple secondary sources that will support the first elimination? —C.Fred (talk) 19:29, 29 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Okay it's 2014 now, time to reveal the tables :D Giggett (talk) 21:26, 29 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Team Colors

It is confirmed that Team Kinosewak's team color is blue. Can someone find the other teams color?TDBiggestFan (talk) 22:34, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, the team colors are blue and brownTDBiggestFan (talk) 22:44, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Unverified Twitter account as a source?

Why in the world should https://mobile.twitter.com/brifro stand as a reliable source? —C.Fred (talk) 23:43, 30 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

TDBiggestfan is mostly known for vandalism, just ignore his edits and revert them Giggett (talk) 00:40, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

26 out of 13?

If the series is 13 episodes long, how are they numbered from 1 to 26? —C.Fred (talk) 22:26, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The production numbers this season from 14 to 26, but the season is only 13 episodes long Giggett (talk) 00:13, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Corey v. Dave

There's been a lot of back and forth about the name of one of the campers, which will allegedly be either Corey or Dave. Is there a reliable source to support either of those names? For that matter, since the names were sourced to a leaked script that has now been taken offline, how much faith do we have in any of the names? —C.Fred (talk) 17:58, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The source had "Dave" listed as the real name. Corey is a character off of Grojband, another show by Fresh TV TDBiggestFan (talk) 15:29, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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