Talk:List of Star Wars planets and moons/Archive 1

Archive 1

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Clearly, the planets which are central to the Star Wars plot lines deserve detailed entries. I recommend that we only include a brief introductory paragraph here and a link to the more detailed article. For the lesser planets, I believe that it is more efficient for readers to learn about them in a single list such as this than in random articles scattered throughout the Wikipedia. We should probably discuss what rules of thumb to use to determine when an article is should be broken out. Rossami (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 00:35, 7 January 2005 (UTC)

Should the planets that do link to their own articles link through their name, like the races do in List of Star Wars races? Riffsyphon1024 05:45, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The races page kind of sticks out against the Wikipedia style. I think this list has a better style—which happens to be correct. —Daelin 03:47, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Then I will quickly edit Manaan to keep it within standards. Riffsyphon1024 07:06, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Gah! Is the gargantuan Table of Contents necessary, and wasn't there a way to turn it off? -- Kizor 15:16, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)

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We seriously need to find a way to shorten this page. I personally find the whole planets/moons thing tiresome, but a "systems of Star Wars" would probably be even bigger.-LtNOWIS 02:03, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)

• Well see for yourself (Systems of Star Wars). -- Riffsyphon1024 23:31, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Table of Contents

I thought the Table of Contents was getting a bit ridiculous so I made letter headings and I put in a compact, alphabet TOC. I did the same the other day on the List of Star Wars races. It's the best method I could come up with, feel free to change it if you can think of a better way. -- Lochaber 16:25, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Kashyyyk

Why does it say, all over wiki that Kashyyyk resembles earth? It resembles earth in one way, it has trees. I honestly think this sentence needs to be omited all over Wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iorek Brynson (talk • contribs) 19:11, 20 May 2005 (UTC)‎

How does Kashyyyk resemble earth? Let me thee count the ways...

• G star.
• Oxygen atmosphere (and a nice similar blue solor)
• Photosynthetic ecosystem
• Big bears (c'mon, who can see Wooks and not think of teddy bears? Scarey bug teddy bears)
• Similar mean temperature- don't see anyone weaing air conditioners or scarves do ya?
• Same kind of oceans

etc...

Of all possible planets, how many resemble Earth/Kashyyk? Not many. --maru 18:30, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

This could also describe a hundred other planets in the Star Wars Universe (except for the big bear part, but other planets have creatures resembling Earth creatures too). bob rulz 21:46, Jun 1, 2005 (UTC)

A hundred? More like a couple thousand. Minus the big bears. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:42, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

I find this insulting. Wookiees are nor bears. Ewoks are closer to bears, and calling Chewbacca a BEAR will insult any REAL Star Wars Fan. Also, Kashyyyk resembles Earth, in many ways, and is also very different. --70.112.203.182 (talk) 16:17, 26 November 2014 (UTC)

Cleanup???

Could you please be a little more specific in your notation? The list works perfectly fine from my viewpoint. What would you suggest? Cobaltbluetony 20:27, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

In my browser, I see the list rendered in various chunks several times. -Joshuapaquin 00:27, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

Check now; my only concern is if some entries were edited in one chunk and not another, and I may have deleted the wrong one. --CobaltBlueTony 04:40, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

Looks good to me. Thanks for fixing. --Joshuapaquin 05:19, May 21, 2005 (UTC)

Utapau

Hmm... should information be added to the Utapau entry regarding its existence prior to Episode III? Lucas was going to use it in early drafts of The Star Wars; Annikin Starkiller, his father and his younger brother were hiding in a moon orbiting Utapau and they were discovered there by a Sith lord (A precursor to Darth Vader). Not necessarily relevant information, but it may be interesting to some? I have a copy of the Annotated Screenplays with me, it has the info that would be added. -- JorgeMacD —Preceding undated comment added 04:31, May 23, 2005

I don't think so. Utapau was just a name back then. Maybe there should be a section for trivia like that? -- Sahriar —Preceding undated comment added 20:05, June 19, 2005

If someone made an article for Utapau, then it could be included. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:42, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Aargau

Hi there...

Is this true, is there really a world called Aargau in a Star Wars Book or else?

For me as swiss it sounds extremly silly. But one never knows where the ideas for names come from and maybe it's always quite silly, if you knew the meanings of them. -Shiut 11:26, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

Apparently, Aargau is real. As far as that goes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stilgar135 (talk • contribs) 18:02, May 27, 2005

Thx for the ratification --Shiut 08:01, 30 May 2005 (UTC)

If you could see in the list, Aargau draws inspiration from Switzerland because the system it is in is Zug, another reference to Switzerland. Star Wars is known to reference many real life things. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:42, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Subdividing

Does anyone else think that it might be a good idea to break this article into smaller chunks? Possibly have several smaller, alphabetically arranged articles, possibly by region of the galaxy (though that might be difficult), possibly even by, for lack of a better word, popularity (though that seems arbitrary and an invitation for trouble). It just seems that a topic this big could be more efficiently managed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stilgar135 (talk • contribs) 18:02, May 27, 2005

I think it would be a good idea to put the longer entries into their own articles. Korriban, for instance. --Gilgamesh 18:09, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Even if you placed all the large sections into articles, there would still alot of planets. Eventually you might just see 3000 planets on this list, since thats at least how many exist in the movies and EU literature. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:42, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

The page should and, if I here no objections, will be divided into smaller pages. Create List of Star Wars planets (A-D), List of Star Wars planets (E-H) etc.... All the pages can be linked to from the main.Trevor macinnis 16:34, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. It would really make it much easier to manage. I support it. bob rulz 07:34, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Done. list of Star Wars planets (A-B) is complete with references. Some minor links need to be cleaned up and references added to the other pages. I'll get to this eventually, or others can jump in. Trevor macinnis 17:45, 3 August 2005 (UTC)

The problem is, who is going to go through and fix all the links to entries on this page? – Mipadi 17:48, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

I can get started on that. I'll try to get as many as I can...there's probably a lot though. bob rulz 21:57, August 3, 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I've done a little bit. I will do more later today, tomorrow, etc, as long as it takes. bob rulz 00:07, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Location of Felucia

Any idea in which sector and system Felucia is? --MDK2582 —Preceding undated comment added 14:12, May 29, 2005

I think Felucia might be located in the Wild Space sector. I'll come back. -- John Hopes — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.218.214.94 (talk • contribs) 00:44, June 8, 2005

Ok, thanks for the hint. --MDK2582 —Preceding undated comment added 11:21, June 30, 2005

There is no such thing as "Wild Space Sector". Wild Space is a large region on the outskirts of the galaxy. Sectors are much smaller governed areas. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:42, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Borealis

Is Borealis even a planet? I thought it was Borleias. --Mipadi 16:32, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

There are two planets. Both are correct. -- Riffsyphon1024 05:42, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

Sappire

There's a planet listed as "Sappire" on this page. I'm not familiar with it—it it really Sappire, or is it actually Sapphire, and the author made a typo? – --Mipadi July 1, 2005 00:59 (UTC)

Wookieepedia has it spelled as "Sappire". -- Riffsyphon1024 05:42, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

CopyEditing

I recently fixed up a lot of bad formatting on this page. Many authors had set off entries using a tab character, which made Wikipedia render the paragraph within a <pre> tag. I fixed all of them. I did notice quite a few spelling/grammar errors, too, which I fixed, but I imagine there are more; there are also a lot of entries with very sparse information, such as "Such and such a planet is a homeworld of humans." Some of these entries could either use more information, or perhaps they should be considered for removal, since they don't add a lot of information to the page.

At any rate, I'm planning on going through this page soon to correct as many spelling, grammar, and formatting errors that I can find. – --Mipadi July 1, 2005 01:36 (UTC)

References

We need to figure out how references are going to work. I have, to date, been making the references for planets I am familiar with a subsubsection of the subsection dealing with that planet, but since my edits keep getting edited, I don't think that's an acceptable method, nor is it scalable. But neither is simply lumping them all in one section acceptable! I say that is unacceptable because what we have here in this list is a long, concatentated list of separate articles, which was simply decided were too small to justify the overhead of separate articles. For a single, logicaly single, article, a monolithic reference section is fine, since they all deal with the same thing. But that is not the case here; how does one know which references correspond to which planets? You don't; suppose I wanted to look up the planet Kiva, I have no idea which reference deals with it (well, I already know, since I put them in there, but bear with me...) and which reference deals with, say, Borealis. And citing within the article, like I see quite a few do, doesn't work, as it is bad style, non-standard, and in order not to sound too hideous, those cites omit most of the information.

I propose we subdivide the references (and if necessary, external links as well) section. Every reference will fall into a subcategory, and if a single reference touches on multiple planets (like an Essential Guide...), that entry be re-duplicated in each applicable subsection. That way, each subsection/planet will have all the references it should have. This redundancy is not a bad thing! We avoid redundancy in articles, using all manner or linking, because the articles are constantly being improved, and maintaining a mirror article is wasteful. But references can't be improved or updated, since you are linking a unique work in time and space! Once and for all, a reference is.

Bottomline: we need references. I'd bet USD10 that there is at least 10 bogus systems/planets in the article, which no-one has realised is bogus, not simply obscure, because there are no references, and no one source we can check veracity with. I shall implement my suggestion with what I know of the references now; don't be afraid to revert (but if you do, be sure to defend it here). --Maru 4 July 2005 04:01 (UTC)

I like what you're doing so far.

By the way, I check this page quite a bit, so I'll be sure to add references if I can. – --Mipadi July 4, 2005 04:24 (UTC)

Glad to hear it. Only problem I've run into so far is that I'm not sure I'll ever be able to move the original references completely into subcategories, since they either embrace so much, or I don't have them. But I'll work on that as soon as I can get references for all the entries, since I can always ask someone on the SW Wiki to put up a list of contents for the Essential Guides, anway... --Maru 4 July 2005 04:38 (UTC)

I also like what you're doing so far. Doing a references section for this size of article is a huge task, and no matter what we do I'm not sure that we can ever make it look like "perfect" formatting. I will help in any way I can. --bob rulz July 4, 2005 05:24 (UTC)

I've done about as much as I can... I may soon be going on a little wiki-vaction, now that I've finished up the Grand Admirals project, and added a lot of references. So please finish up what I've missed, and the later letters now. It should be a lot easier since for a lot of entries a simple cut-and-pase of already referenced books will work. --Maru 5 July 2005 04:37 (UTC)

Problems: Unsure how to credit the games and movies. Movies, as a stopgap solution, I credit the Annotated Screenplays (which is true enough), but I've passed over in silence planets mentioned solely in, say the Dark Forces, or KOTORs. Suggestions welcome. Also: A lot of these planets seem dodgy, but I lacked the patience to weed'em out as I went. I'll probably get to that one day (about when I clean up the writing too), bnut the sooner the better. --Maru 9 July 2005 03:30 (UTC)

I also have been bothered by the lack of consistency regarding references (not to mention differences in style between various pages of the list). I do like the idea of having subsections within the references section (e.g. Kashyyyk references). Looks like I will have to change my ways though, I never included references before. For example, I know that Azbrian is an actual planet in the SW universe (I was the one who originally added it), but on the other hand, I've never heard of the planet Kiva. So how do I know that this planet really does exist? Thus, I now recognize the need for references and will attempt to include them in the future.

I would like to help out with these pages - primarily making the style more consistent, but also adding info and references as I come upon them. -- wacko — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.253.156 (talk • contribs) 19:17, October 16, 2005

New Page

I've taken my references work, and started a new list: List of Star Wars references. I hope y'all will add any references you might find (or include on) various SW pages to there as well. --Maru 17:59, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

The article has since been deleted, and should not be recreated without an especially good reason. Ian Manka Talk to me! 04:56, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Utegetu Nebula

Being a nebula Utegetu Nebula can be merged in List of Star Wars planets? --Melaen 18:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

No. Only actual planets can be listed. A similar problem arises with the Aramand Cluster: there is just nowhere convenient to put it. We have lists for individual planets / systems / sectors respectively, but apparently there is no page for miscellaneous galaxy locations. If you wish to create such a page, go for it. --wacko2 19:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Just had a thought. You could possibly put Utegetu Nebula in the Other Areas section of Star Wars galaxy. -- wacko2 05:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Ceilla

Shouldn't there be an entry on Ceilla? A map on the Star Wars Galaxy article shows it (in the Unexplored Regions area), but it is not listed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disko~enwiki (talk • contribs) 03:16, February 5, 2006

I believe you misread the map. The planet is actually Csilla, not Ceilla. --wacko2 19:20, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Planets in the movies

I think the planets that appear in the movies should have their own list, shown on this page, in addition to being listed with all planets in the alphabetical pages. This would add in readability as most readers will be interested in the movie planets. I'm going to make the changes, but if anyone strongly objects, please discuss here. - SeanR (talk) 00:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Dantooine

Should Dantooine be included on this list? --122.104.130.112 (talk) 03:18, 29 December 2008 (UTC)Jared

yes it should. Jsarao (talk) 18:18, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Coruscant

SHOULDNT CORUSCANT BE A PLANET ON THE PLANETS IN THE MOVIES LIST!??!! CORUSCANT IS A PLANET IN STAR WARS! MY SMALL COUSIN KNOWS THIS! WHO IS IN CHARGE HERE???!? HOW CAN YOU FORGET CORUSCANT!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.97.6.250 (talk) 02:39, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Cato Neimodia

It says Cato Neimodia is only mentioned in Ep III, but we see it when Plo Koon is killed by the clones. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.111.49.8 (talk) 12:41, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Nar Shaddaa

I'm very certain that Nar Shaddaa is never mentioned in Episode IV. So I'm very confused by it's inclusion in the movie planets section with that notation. However, I'm not interested in editing without fact checking. I'm willing to presume I've just missed the reference in the past 36 years. If there is someone who can provide the line of dialogue or point to an on-screen graphic that confirms its mention in the film, can you please provide it here? This is the only item on the list I can dispute. I'll check back at a later date to see if anyone has answered. Then I'll double check the source material again before deleting it as an error. Thanks in advance for any help. Medleystudios72 (talk) 21:35, 4 June 2013 (UTC)