Talk:List of Seventh-day Adventist periodicals

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Order

How should we order this list? By name, by publisher, by circulation (number of copies sent out), by country, by theological perspective? I suppose that geography and publisher are usually related. Circulation is significant but may be harder to find out. Theological perspective would not always be easy to judge, and it would be hard to find good references for this. How about by country of publication then? -Colin MacLaurin 20:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Country of publication sounds good to me. Put the publishers Initials next to the publication if necessary, ie, R&H or PP or SPC. Ansell 23:10, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Table

What do you think of making a table for all the entries? There would be columns for publisher, archives, circulation, and probably perspective as well. The user could then sort the table however they wanted, e.g. by name or by circulation. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 12:09, 31 August 2008 (UTC) Also publication frequency, publication dates. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 12:17, 31 August 2008 (UTC) Perhaps also a column for official/independent. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 06:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I like the table as it organizes the material instead of being free-form. As to the official/independent column, I would say that if the article title is "List of Seventh-day Adventist periodicals", it ought to be periodicals are published or sponsored by the church itself. Basically I'm arguing that this list out ought to be the "official" list. If it is not limited, the list will most certainly end up as heavily weighted with pro-church, anti-church, hate-the-church, one-off, one-person, pseudo-fringe entries that are only marginally related to Seventh-day Adventists and the arguments about them that will inevitably result. Also, when you put all periodicals together in one place you lend equal credibility to Jim Bob's Annual Critique of Adventist Hairstyles and Adventist Review. I do think there may be a place for a list that contains Jim Bob's publication, but this isn't that list. Sdenny123 (talk) 23:22, 12 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good point. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 10:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great job Sdenny123 on adding all those entries. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 07:07, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How about renaming "Frequency" to "Number per year" or something - and using a number. This is for the sorting - so "2" per year would come before "3" per year and "6" per year, for example. This would be explained in the article somewhere. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 10:58, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Love the sorting. I'm fine with changing the name and values. Frequency is the term used in the magazine infobox and is why I chose it but I'm not in the industry to know what term is in common use.

It would remove a point of maintenance. I got the values in the infoboxes of the magazine articles where available but obviously the circulation numbers change each year and its unlikely someone changing a specific article will remember to come here and change it. It is technically possible to automatically pick up Frequency and Circulation fields from the infobox?

As for circulation citations, the only place I've seen has that information is the publisher and they could hardly be considered unbiased. I understand its required to be stated in magazines once per year if they are mailed by USPS. Would this be considered a reliable source? Is there an industry group that audits publishers? Sdenny123 (talk) 13:32, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have fallen upon a Seventh-day Adventist Yearbook which contains a section named "Periodicals, Issued Under the Auspices of the Seventh-day Adventist Denomination". I think it is reasonable to include that list in the table in this article (note there are hundreds). I would also think it is reasonable to limit the table to that group and then the article can say it is the list of periodicals published by the church, which also makes the list traceable to a reliable source. I would make an exception for conference periodicals which are not in the yearbook (it stops at the union level). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdenny123 (talk • contribs) 20:15, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Publisher, Location

Regarding the table, is the intent for the publisher to be the real publisher or the publishing house? For example, many periodicals are published by the General Conference of Seventh-day Adventists, but are printed by Review and Herald or Pacific Press. Officially the publisher is the GC, but the publishing house may be where you go to purchase the periodical so it would be of some interest, but is not usually the publisher.

As for location I'm assuming it would be dictated by who is listed as publisher. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdenny123 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Some books are published privately but printed or distributed by Review and Herald etc (Koranteng-Pipim's Receiving the Word, I recall?) In these cases, we must be careful to list the smaller publisher, not the printer. As for General Conference publications, I am not so sure. How about putting General Conference / Review and Herald etc.? Colin MacLaurin (talk) 02:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If it is published by the General Conference, then I believe that should be listed as the publisher. The printer (e.g. Review and Herald or Pacific Press) is not that important in this case. Regarding Sdenny123's comment above, I understand the usual source of Adventists books are Adventist Book Centers, which stock both. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 04:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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