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"Shawn (and Gus) of the Dead" -- Bueller

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This redirects to the movie, Shawn of the Dead. Anyone want to remove that link? (I'm afraid I'll mess it up.) Languageleon (talk) 11:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nevermind, I fixed the one of Shawn of the Dead, but now there is one on the Bueller episode. Were these put there on purpose? They seem like silly and superfluous links in the article. Languageleon (talk) 11:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I changed the beller. Raiku Lucifer Samiyaza

Photo request

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Could there be any photos we can use in this article under our fair use image policy? — The Storm Surfer 01:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Episode article review

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The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
The result of the discussion was to redirect all of the episode articles except American Duos to this page's list of episodes.

The following is an episode review discussion that is intended to evaluate articles for individual episodes. See WP:TV-REVIEW and WP:EPISODE for more info.

Per WP:EPISODE, not every episode of a TV show should likely have an individual article. This can be for many reasons, such as notability or sources, or even just what format fits best for that show.

Season 1

Season 2

* — notability established during this review

There are also 9 subsequent redlinks is a redlink that should be considered a part of this review should [an] articles be started for them it during its course. --Jack Merridew 10:57, 5 August 2007 (UTC) Matthew removed 8 of 'em so I'm refactoring my comment. --Jack Merridew 11:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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None of the article pages seem to assert individual notability. — The Storm Surfer 11:07, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I agree — guess I should have stated so explicitly. I don't believe many even link to tv.com or imdb. They have been tagged for not asserting notability for about 10 days now. Absent someone editing any of these to establish a reasonable claim of notability, these should all be redirected to the LOE. --Jack Merridew 11:51, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It would be nice if you guys would do a little googling when deciding the fates of articles. A search for psych pilot on google news turns up a lot of RSs with info that can be incorperated. I added a bit of it to American Duos, but it's frustrating to have to follow the ep review people around and try and save easily salvageable articles. It would be a lot cooler if the review process involved adding all the info from RSs that can be found, then redirecting the ones that don't have RS info. - Peregrine Fisher 18:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

First, it is not the responsibility of other editors to source material someone else has failed to source. Secondly, having a lot of google hits means nothing. Have you checked all those hits? Do you know they are all reliable? DO you know that the information in them is encyclopedic itself? Or that the majority of those hits are not simply repeating the same information? It isn't hard to follow the "review people" around, as the review page itself is always updated when a new discussion is started, and none are archived until they are finished. The great thing about Wikipedia is that nothing is ever lost. So if the articles are all redirected, there isn't a problem. If you find that in the 21 google hits you got for the Psych Pilot give enough information to assert notability, and provide enough real world content to warrant a separate article, then it's easily accomplished.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 23:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Really; as Bignole says. If this review process results in reliable citations that establish notability (yada, yada, yada) being added to episode articles (which would then not be redirected), then, fine, but it's is not the "review people[s']" responsibility to add them, it an option for anyone who would like to edit the articles. Go for it. --Jack Merridew 08:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum: Ya gone for it. The refs Peregrine Fisher added to American Duos do seem to establish notability for the episode; I'm specifically referring to these two: [1][2] --Jack Merridew 08:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Addendum 2: This episode also appears to be a bit beyond mere plot summary. --Jack Merridew 12:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Before one can really get an impression of notability we need some more real world information in these articles. Even without a notability discussion, we have WP:NOT#PLOT. If we can find some real world information, or some hints to where real world information can be found, we should be able to get a better picture of the situation. -- Ned Scott 01:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

TVSquad.com seems to have reviews for most of the episodes. [3] - Peregrine Fisher 01:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Feel free to add more such links — I know there are some already. I don't see that site as serving to establish notability, though; it seems to be the same sort of fan-contribution site as tv.com et al. --Jack Merridew 08:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not entirely sure, but after reading TV Squad, I think it's more like an online newspaper, not something that allows anyone to write reviews like tv.com. - Peregrine Fisher 16:15, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Still seems a blog — albeit a limited access one. --Jack Merridew
I have never seen this show; I happened upon one of the episode articles and took a look at others and saw a pattern — a lack of assertion of notability. So here we are. --Jack Merridew 08:29, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Another problem with these articles is the likely Original Research in the allusions sections. — The Storm Surfer 15:28, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would tend to view them as a form of trivia section; I'll look again and see. --Jack Merridew 12:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • All these should be redirected to the LOE. The Psych episode might just qualify as asserting O-O-U notability, but the send-up of American Idol can be noted on the LOE page as well and I would argue that it should be redirected as well until more explicit notability can be established. Generally, the content here is nothing more than the usual goulash of plot summary and trivia that is explicitly discouraged by WP:EPISODE. Eusebeus 10:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I assume you mean the American Duos episode. --Jack Merridew 12:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why are some shows allowed to have an article for every episode (ie arrested development, the office, the simpsons, South park) but shows like Psych and Monk not allowed to have articles for every episode? I mean arrested development episodes aren't that notable by the end of the run for AD it had a weekly viewer ship of just over 1 million and they hardly made an impact on pop culture but psych has higher viewship but they are up for deletion. Actually i love arrested development and dont think they should delete the episode articles but i also dont think they should delete the psych articles either. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jjfg45 (talk • contribs).
It's not that some shows are allowed to do this and some are not, it's more like, we haven't gotten to cleaning up the majority of the articles yet. Right now it's very likely for someone to find tons of these articles, but that in itself doesn't mean they should or should not exist. Nor is the situation about popularity, but rather, cleaning out stuff that is just plot summary which doesn't aid or have real encyclopedic content. -- Ned Scott 06:19, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ok i see thanks for clearing that up but why put these up for deletion and not on a list of articles for cleanup? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jjfg45 (talk • contribs).

Redirect them all, save the American Duos one. They have either obscenely long plot summaries, or few liner ones. And none but the aforementioned one asserts its own individual notability. i said 03:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge them all to LOE (per WP:EPISODE) by creating separate pages for seasons, so the pages stay under control. Keep the second season episodes for now as they need some attention to receive the references if available (merge later if needed). Encourage adding the future episode info to season articles. feydey 15:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

motion to close

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I move to close this discussion and redirect all save American Duos — Have any other episodes been significantly edited since this discussion began? --Jack Merridew 10:14, 14 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Give it time. The episode notability guidelines are just that — guidelines. They are not hard-and-fast rules. --Nricardo 01:24, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It has had time. Do you have anything to offer that will serve to establish notability of any of these episodes? --Jack Merridew 11:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
its had a little time, but who are you to say its had enough. maybe you should at least wait a few weeks til the half season is over so people can gather all the information necessary and maybe ideas will be more clear as the plot develops that can help with notability. You need to see the whole arc of the season before you determine what role each episode plays in its role in the overall story arch. so wait a few weeks til season is over. Its not like it makes that big of a difference til then. 68.72.139.153
We've been conducting this review for over a week now. No one has offered anything new in days. If something turns up that establishes an episode as notable or someone cares to edit the articles so that they are more the just WP:NOT#PLOT, fine. If, in the meantime, they're redirected, well, that's what the history link is for. --Jack Merridew 13:37, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Also remember, There is no deadline. Stardust8212 14:03, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Did you actually read that essay? Like the parts where it says We can afford to take our time, to consider matters, to wait before creating a new article until its significance is unambiguously established. and Above all, creating an article without establishing the basis of the content and its significance is a bad idea. Create, or resurrect a stub and expand, an article when there is a solid basis for it existing. -Jack Merridew 11:24, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I didn't make that clear, I intended that comment for the IP editor, not you, I assumed the context of my comment would be clear from the link but clearly I was wrong. So, yes, I did read it, thanks. Stardust8212 13:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ahh... makes all the difference! Sorry for barking. I was thinking that the comment meant that there was no deadline for doing something about these articles... --Jack Merridew 13:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
while you've been conducting this review for a week it doesn't mean everyone is like you and checks this multiple times per day. Some people only get around to it once or so a week, if even that, so I dont really think one week is justifiable to determine a deadline before anything is offered up. 68.72.139.153
I'm sure there are many, many people who visit this page rather less then once a week. Same for the episode articles. --Jack Merridew 11:24, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I say do it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually, and not permanently. If one of these articles turns out to be notable, someone can revert the redirect and add the notability-asserting information. — The Storm Surfer 01:55, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not today, but mebbe tomorrow... --Jack Merridew 11:24, 16 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Upcoming episodes

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I've just checked USA Network's schedule, episodes 19 to 22 are listed, but nothing beyond that. Where's the source for the other season two episodes? One will need to be provided quite soon (or those episodes will be removed), it will also need to corroborate that these episodes are from season two and will air in 2007 (so the copyright DB won't suffice). Matthew 14:55, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

every confirmed upcoming episode is from season 2, as season 3 has not even been guaranteed and even so will not go into production until summer of 08, hence anything found in the copyright database will suffice just fine 68.72.116.9
No, you'll need to provide a source, for all you know it may simply be a script that gets shelved. Also do you have a source it hasn't been renewed? or are you just guessing because you don't know? PS: Remember that the onus is yours to provide a reliable source, not mine. Matthew 17:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Black and Tan

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Entry originally states that a fashion designer was "electrocuted to death." The "to death" is superfluous. Electrocute means to kill or execute with electricity, so I removed the "to death." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.14.74.131 (talk) 16:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actual Episode Pages

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Well, considering nearly if not all the episodes of the Simpsons has them, we could give Psych a nice page for every single episode, including perhaps cultural references and trivia? I could get started on the first season, beacause I have Season one, but someone with something like TiVo probably wants to get the second season until they release a DVD for that. How about it? Music is life. Live it fun. Listen to Ska! (talk) 23:52, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They existed, but the big, bad deletionists got to them. —Nricardo (talk) 00:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
On what charges? They weren't being useful? And yet Family Guy gets all their episodes page'd. Music is life. Live it fun. Listen to Ska! (talk) 02:10, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Why cant we make pages for them? Isn't there enough information on tv.com and psych.usanetwork.com to make them? Zombified22 (talk) 21:06, 20 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For those episodes that are notable under WP:NOTE/WP:EPISODE, knock yourself out. Expect deletion to reoccur if you create them without clearly sourced cases for notability. Before you ask, if there are Simpsons or Family Guy episodes that don't meet those guidelines, they too should be deleted. "Other crap exists" doesn't excuse the creation of new non-notable content. MrZaiustalk 09:09, 5 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Season 3 Episode Titles

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Hey I just found some possible titles for the first 5 episodes of Season 3 of Psych. Here is a link to the source-

http://www.tv.com/psych/show/59369/episode_guide.html?season=3&tag=season_dropdown;dropdown;2

I started to edit the page, but had no idea and would probably end up here anyway apologizing for goofing up the page. So there's a link I found. Glad to be of help.

BTW, great idea about the article for each episode. -Earlman27 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Earlman27 (talk • contribs) 02:13, 27 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Pineapple

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Its highly unencyclopedia to list next to every episode where a pineapple appears in the episode. I propose this unneccessary information be removed. 220.233.169.158 (talk) 09:38, 8 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree, there is no other place to put it and it's something that interesting and unique about the show. If we did have dedicated pages for each episode, I'd agree, but that isn't the case. Lord Procyon (talk) 02:09, 23 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The wiki's own guidelines would seem to side with the anonymous editor, rather than yourself. It's worse than unnecessary: It's unsourced original research that undermines the integrity of the article itself. This is made crystal clear by the most recent edit: "24.1.74.8 (Talk) (Edited the Pineapple Location for S03E07. Location before was actually a plant. There is no pineapple. Confirmed)." If this content is to be retained at all, it should be sourced and some context should be added to explain why the topic warrants coverage. MrZaiustalk 08:58, 5 November 2008 (UTC) (On a related note - 'tis fancruft.)[reply]
If it is something interesting then it is better included in the Pysch page as a point of interest with appropriate referencing. A list of the actual position of every single pineapple are trivial facts and represent original research that is not appropriate in an encyclopedia. Wikipedia is not a collection of lists. 220.233.169.158 (talk) 21:04, 10 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Season 3

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Shouldn't there be a reference to when season 3 continues? (January 2009, according to usa website). http://www.usanetwork.com/series/psych/sweepstakes/

Season 4

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Just a quick question... how are you finding the titles for new episodes? I can't find them anywhere online, except Twitter. Kevinbrogers (talk) 05:12, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

can yu help me? okay, im looking for an episode of psych that i cant quite find because i cant remember the name,i want to find the episode because the flashback in the beggining shows him in highschool and i want to make a pic out of one of the still frames but-obviously- i need the episode to do it. what i can remember in the episode is that it starts with shawn's dad and he's found a stolen car and the people who stole it are still inside and he openes the door and teenage shawn and some girl are in there. then, later in the episode, the main conflict is like, spencer is all mad at his dad because he left his mother when he later figures out that,in reality, it was his mother who left. if any episodes come to mind please please tell me —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.189.16.163 (talk) 00:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it was the season two finale, Shawn (and Gus) of the Dead. If Madeleine (Shawn's mom) was in it, then it was the season three premiere, Ghosts. Kevinbrogers (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I checked. It's Ghosts. Kevinbrogers (talk) 21:50, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me-

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in the season 4 episode "The Devil is in the Details... and the Upstairs Bedroom", what music is played in the scene where guss tells shawn that he already called some one and priest comes to the house gate to exorcise ? please tell me, its in the 23 to 24 minutes region, thankx. Upol007 (talk) 05:36, 15 November 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Upol007 (talk • contribs) 04:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

heads up about annouced guest appance in season 5

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he guys just a heads up about chris sarandon being in the 5th season fanle announced by chris sarandon himself, though you may want to look in chris sarandon panel at sac anime 2010 if you can find it. It was about a month ago with the con. most likely youtube would have it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.238.162.121 (talk) 07:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Season 7 first episode

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According to this (contains spoilers, allegedly, unless designed to be misleading or simply faked) (and claims by others online about word from some of the writers), the first episode of Season 7 was, as of Summer 2012, meant to be the second half/conclusion of the two-parter whose beginning concluded Season 6, and will be called (again, as of Summer 2012) Santabarbaratown 2. Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:39, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Juliet Takes a Luvvah"

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Quick prediction: In Yang 3 in 2D, Yang announces "Shawn Spencer has taken a luvvah!!" Will this be Yang 4, or just a coincidence? Kude90 (talk) 00:19, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Season 8 Wikipage needs to be created.

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The season 8 premiere has now aired. We need to create a separate page for season 8 so we have somewhere to give the episodes more detail than just a title. I don't know how to take care of this myself, or I would. If someone could take care of this ASAP, I'd appreciate it. Thanks. --Jgstokes (talk) 07:26, 9 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Overview Table Format

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A recent edit by User:Awardgive changed the overview table to a more comprehensive table that is featured in the main Psych page. I think this issue should be discussed first. I personally disagree with this change for a few reasons. The bigger table is not good for this page. There is no good reason to transplant the table from the main page onto an episode list. Almost all TV show episode lists, including Featured Articles like List of Lost episodes and List of The Simpsons episodes, use the traditional table. There is too much information on the bigger table, like time slots. It is especially unnecessary to include premiere and finale ratings when the ratings are very easy to see if you just scroll down to the list. The bigger table also lacks the helpful colors that are associated with each season and DVD release dates. If anyone disagrees, please discuss here. Tsweeney34 (talk) 23:29, 13 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Agree Encmetalhead (talk) 02:33, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I agree as well. The table as it now stands is perfect for our purposes. Any alterations should be discussed here before being implemented into the article. But I want to be clear that I would be very opposed to any such changes. --Jgstokes (talk) 03:26, 14 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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