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what the heck

ok i know there were a bunch of unnessarary charcters in planet of the apes but can we at least make an article for caeser —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.168.80.163 (talk) 20:44, 1 January 2011 (UTC) and while we are it i think we should put bradford dillmans charcter in the list of planet of the ape charcters71.168.80.163 (talk) 15:22, 3 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lawgiver: last Citation

The last citation sounds very interesting, now, if only we knew whether it was true or not.--81.151.153.176 (talk) 01:07, 27 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Plot (narrative) in character descriptions??

I am new to this and so am unclear regarding the use of plot descriptions in Movie Character descriptions. For example, I was editing the plot of Rise of the POTA in the PLOT section of that film page, and then found this Characters page. To my surprise, the movie plot is repeated here several times - but, of course, inconsistently. (See entries for Caesar and Will Rodman). That makes at least three versions of the same plot. It seems to me that this practice opens Wiki up to internal consistency errors. Would it not be better to only allow plot description for a film once - in the PLOT section of the main page - and then make reference back to that in all other places? RobP (talk) 07:28, 1 May 2013 (UTC)Rp2006[reply]

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This list only includes characters from the original series, not the television series, the animated series, the remake, the reboot series, or the novel. Those characters should be covered. Charles Essie (talk) 19:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Caesar is covered for both series. Characters that only appeared in Rise or the TV series, like Veska, have their own sections on the list. Other TV series characters like Galen and Urko are mentioned, but don't have their own sections. A list like this can always be improved. - Gothicfilm (talk) 03:46, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dr. Zaire's

Dr. Zaius very much needs his own entry. He is an iconic cultural figure.

Man is a menace.

I love you Dr. Zaius! 107.221.229.121 (talk)

I agree, I also think Caesar should get his own page. Charles Essie (talk) 13:35, 15 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Caesar

Caesar from the original movies is not Caesar from the reboot series, they shouldn't be listed as the same character. --KronosLine (talk) 17:16, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

KronosLine, that section currently states, "Milo, better known as Caesar, is a fictional character in the Planet of the Apes franchise." That's what Caesar is, in any incarnation. The reboot series has different portrayal of Caesar, but the character is Caesar either way. It's similar to how James Bond has had different incarnations, except that James Bond has been portrayed by various different actors and in various types of stories. That stated, since Caesar is not called Milo in the reboot series, I can see that part needing tweaking. Flyer22 (talk) 17:34, 23 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

When Did The Apocalypse Happen?

At the end of Battle For The Planet of The Apes The Lawgiver is seen teaching a group of human and ape children. Apparently after the fourth movie, apes and humans lived together in a community of sorts but the nuclear war that destroyed New York and much of the known surrounding region hasn't happened yet. So this period also came before The Lawgiver's dire "Beware The Beast-Man" pronouncement in the scroll Cornelius read in the final act of Planet of The Apes. As such, the viewer can surmise that it was the nuclear war which led to the expulsion of humans from ape society. This explains why the Simian culture became more humble and agrarian while humans became more animal-like. Those who lived close to the war zone and survived, evolved into a third society of mutants with certain mental abilities. These people moved under-ground, shunned the surface world and lived a "bunker" lifestyle that based its religion on an unused "doomsday" device. Between The Lawgiver's era and the arrival of Taylor, how much time had passed? Do the movies actually use dates? Given the movie series, the T.V. show and books, has a timeline ever been established?MARK VENTURE (talk) 19:01, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The prologue at the start of Battle says the year is 2670 A.D. When Taylor's ship crashed the ship's clock said it was 3978. That would be 1,308 years. Even using the 3955 year from the sequels; it would be 1,285 year. The timeline has long been established. Marvel did one back in the '70s and more recently the book "Timeline of the Planet of the Apes" was published. It is available on Amazon. SonOfThornhill (talk) 11:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@MARK VENTURE:

I'm not sure what you mean by "Apocalypse" but certainly are confusing the timelines. The developments included in first two films (including "Beware The Beast-Man" and the Taylor's destruction of the earth) are not (nor at least, not necessarily part of the developments of the timeline of the last two films or after).

"The nuclear war that destroyed New York" has already happened between films 4 and 5 and the latter film shows the early mutations due to radiation.

Developments after the Lawgiver's concluding speach in film 5 are of course ambiguous and there 1300 years to go until Taylor's arrival but it is highly unlikely that same Lawgiver who gave that speech and would also write of "the beast-man". 1300 years notwithstanding, the Lawgiver only has a single lifetime to make both pronuncements. Str1977 ^(talk) 18:04, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It could be the same Lawgiver. He does speak of 'evil men who betrayed God's trust'. It is possible that in the 1300 years between the end of BATTLE and the events of PLANET, that the Lawgiver's writings were distorted to highlight the more negative aspects about mankind. SonOfThornhill (talk) 23:32, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No Biblical meaning was intended, just the use of the word as an earth shattering event, like the death of the dinosaurs! MARK VENTURE (talk) 19:58, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Torben is not Caesar?

Why, under the sub-sections "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" and "Dawn of the Planet of the Apes", is Caesar consistently referred to as Torben? I'm aware that was Caesar's birth name in the original film series, but that's not his name in the reboot, and I can't recall a single time that he's actually referred to with it.

You are right. Caesar is never called Torben. If you check the Infobox on the character is looks like the entry has been hit by a vandal. SonOfThornhill (talk) 13:20, 1 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The Colonel's full name

Woody Harrelson's character, the Colonel, is named as Colonel J. Wesley McCullough in the shooting draft of War for the Planet of the Apes, specifically page 19. Now his first names are not given in the film, but he is referred to as Colonel McCullough once or twice throughout the film. 216.85.40.69 (talk) 15:06, 18 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Orphaned references in List of Planet of the Apes characters

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of Planet of the Apes characters's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Oakley":

From The Simpsons (season 7): Oakley, Bill (2005). The Simpsons season 7 DVD commentary for the episode "Home Sweet Homediddly-Dum-Doodily" (DVD). 20th Century Fox.
From David X. Cohen: Oakley, Bill (2005). The Simpsons season 7 DVD commentary for the episode "Lisa the Iconoclast" (DVD). 20th Century Fox.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 15:08, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Zaius

Just reviewing the entry for Dr. Zaius and the way it is structured might lead to some confusion. The character in the Television series is a different character as the one on the first two films. The current wording makes it sound as if they are the same character. I'd like to reword the entry so that is clearer to readers. SonOfThornhill (talk) 12:53, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]