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The page has been updated to reflect Lhakpa Sherpa's achievement but you still need to do it under "Nepali Records" further down. Sorry, I have no idea how. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.33.0.97 (talk) 06:28, 22 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Notable firsts

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Could I please ask why Alison Hargreaves (UK) is not listed as the first woman to summit solo (with no companions and no use of others’ fixed ropes, etc) and also without supplementary oxygen, which she accomplished on 13th May, 1995? Jackykayjay — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackykayjay (talk • contribs) 10:31, 8 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is in regard to the good faith revert of my addition of the first Malaysian to reach the summit. DerbyCountyinNZ, your rationale is that "First of country is not notable, there must be dozens..." Do you have any way to support that? It sounds quite speculative to me, and I feel you should self-revert and include Datuk M. Magendran for his high achievement! (no pun intended) – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 05:47, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why include only one country, is there anything special about a Malaysian climbing Everest? There are at least 23 countries who have had 10 people summit Everst and making a quick count of this graphic it looks like at least 80 countries have at least 1 person. That's better than 1 in 3 of the world's countries. So in fact there is nothing particuarly notable about any country having someone summit Everest. Such stats might be appropriate in a list in its own right, but hardly seems appropriate here. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 05:59, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I see what you mean, and after looking this website over, I tend to agree that there are a lot of mountain climbers from many countries who make the assault on Everest each year. That still does not lessen the greatness of the achievement, though, and anyone who makes it to the summit, whether first or not, is quite courageous and worthy of some note. – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 06:47, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It appears the wiki community does not share your sentiments. Out of 3000+ people who have summited Everest only just over 100 have articles. As you know, the Timeline of climbing Mount Everest has a section which includes firsts by nation (along with other more trivial entries, much of it uncited). That section is probably large enough to be separated to its own article but a list of every summiter but would not only be very large (if properly referenced) but might also be a violation WP:STANDALONE. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 07:21, 21 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For dying on Everest one can become a record holder?

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There is a seperate article concerning death on this mountain. I argue that none of the context below is notable as a record.

Well its a pretty macabre section but they did make a statue for Pasang. Maybe down the line we can split the page? There is some confusion (confusion in sources) over when people were born, which is why the youngest section is a bit hazy sometimes. Fotaun (talk) 11:42, 27 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Moved to discussion:

Died on descent after summiting

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Pasang Lhamu Sherpa, the first Nepali woman to summit but did not make it down alive
Memorial of Dimitar Ilievski, the first Macedonian to summit Everest but (...) descending from the Mountain

Examples of those who, after summiting, died on the descent down or soon after (not counting other climbs, on the same expedition but does not have to be their first summit)

exampes only

References

  1. ^ [1]

Youngest people to die on Mount Everest

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Examples of known cases[1][2][3]

  • Pemba Sherpa, April 25, 2015, 19[1][2][4]
  • Ang Chuldim, August 31, 1982, 20[5]
  • Lobsang Sherpa, May 7, 2013, 22[6]
  • Víctor Hugo Trujillo, August 16, 1986, 22[7]
  • Andrew Irvine, June 9, 1924, 22[3]
  • Marco Siffredi, September 8, 2002, 23 [8]
  • Michael Matthews, May 13, 1999, 23[9]

Named corpses

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Without oxygen

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How about including at least the first to summit without oxygen (see 1978). How many have done it since? Hugo999 (talk) 04:11, 21 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]


References

  1. ^ a b "Everest K2 News ExplorersWeb - Everest: List of Avalanche Victims". Retrieved 6 May 2015.
  2. ^ a b Human Edge Tech, Explorersweb Inc. "Adventure Consultants Everest 2015 - Dispatches - By CONTACT5.0". Retrieved 6 May 2015.
  3. ^ a b Ortner 2001, p. 49
  4. ^ http://www.adventureconsultants.com/adventure/Everest_Dispatch2015/
  5. ^ Reuter 1982, p. 3
  6. ^ Young Sherpa plunges to his death on Everest
  7. ^ Bell 1986
  8. ^ Smith 2002
  9. ^ Douglas 2001
  10. ^ Cite error: The named reference dwhelga was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  11. ^ a b BBC - Death in the Clouds - Rachel Nuwer 9 October 2015
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