Talk:List of state highway spurs in Kansas

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Kansas route audit

I conducted an audit of the KDOT Pavement Management Information System, the primary mileage source for Kansas state highways, to check for state highways shorter than one mile. There are thus 34 routes that qualify for this article. All of these routes should be included in this list article. In fact, the routes should be included only in this list and not have a separate article unless the route has sufficient notability. The article title should have a redirect to the proper spot in this list once the route has been added to the list. V C 01:47, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Highway	County	City or Point of Interest	In List?	Own Article?
K-217	Cheyenne	Wheeler	N	N
K-267	Sherman	Kanorado	Y	N
K-253	Sherman	Edson	N	N
K-167	Wichita	Marienthal	N	N
K-212	Gove	Quinter	N	N
K-216	Gove	Grinnell	N	N
K-67	Norton	State Hospital	N	N
K-173	Norton	Densmore	N	N
K-84	Graham	Penokee	N	N
K-85	Graham	Morland	Y	Terminated
K-198	Trego	Collyer	N	N
K-121	Phillips	Stuttgart	N	N
K-182	Smith	Bellaire	N	N
K-191	Smith	Geographic center of U.S.	Y	Terminated
K-248	Smith	Kensington	N	N
K-219	Stafford	Seward	N	N
K-193	Mitchell	Asherville	N	N
K-199	Republic	Courtland	N	N
K-219	Stafford	Seward	N	N
K-189	Cloud	Miltonvale	Y	Terminated
K-175	McPherson	Marquette	Y	N
K-163	Sedgwick	Garden Plain	N	N
K-205	Sumner	Milan	N	N
K-271	Sumner	Mayfield	N	N
K-243	Washington	Pony Express Station	N	N
K-234	Washington	Hanover	N	N
K-119	Washington	Greenleaf	N	N
K-115	Washington	Palmer	N	N
K-168	Marion	Lehigh	N	N
K-215	Marion	Goessel	Y	Terminated
K-185	Wabaunsee	McFarland	N	N
K-115	Washington	Palmer	N	N
K-131	Coffey	Lebo	N	N
K-202	Allen	Savonburg	N	N
K-203	Allen	Elsmore	N	N
K-201	Neosho	Stark	N	N
K-279	Miami	State Hospital	N	N

The following routes have their own articles but may no longer be state highways because they are not include in the PMIS.

Highway	County	City or Point of Interest	In List?	Own Article?
K-247	Ellis	Ellis	Y	N
K-76	Jefferson	Williamstown	Y	Y
K-114	Riley	Ogden	Y	Y

There are other highways not included in the PMIS that are marked on the 2011–2012 KDOT Official Transportation Map. Those will be compiled sometime in the future. V C 03:06, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I merged one in. We should have some way to mark the ones that are done. I used {{terminated}} since it was the silliest appropriate table-cell template I could find. I wouldn't be opposed to some other way. –Fredddie ™ 15:28, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the associated items need to be deleted on Wikidata since they were already created. If you could let me know what ones get deleted, that would be helpful so I can request deletion. --Rs chen 7754 23:12, 28 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

K-76 has been decommissioned

I have recently driven through Williamstown, and all signage for K-76 has been removed. I have added that info to the entry on K-76, along with links to a site to provide reference. As it stands now, that's all I can come up with. --68.102.151.245 (talk) 15:51, 6 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Changing requirements for this page

I propose that the requirements be raised to under three miles, as there are quite a few routes that would fit this description, but do not warrant a separate article. A great example is K-184 in Thomas County, only serves the purpose of serving the small town of Brewster, and is 1.578 miles. Another good example is K-112 in Jewell County, at 2.483 miles,and serving Esbon, pretty much a completely unremarkable route. This can help remove unnecessary stub pages.

Also I can indeed confirm that K-114 is still a route. It can be seen on the 2015-2016 map, and is still signed.

GTSinc (talk) 10:51, 23 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@GTSinc: It has been several years since I have paid attention to Kansas, and with such a gulf of time comes new perspective. I propose we make the requirement for this list be that the highway is a spur from a highway to a city or point of interest with no intermediate intersections. That way, we can include routes that are more than 1 mile, which is sort of an arbitrary standard. V C 23:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 28 September 2017

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The result of the move request was: moved DrStrauss talk 16:28, 24 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

List of Kansas state highway spurs → List of state highway spurs in Kansas – To comply with road list conventions...List of state highways in Kansas and List of state highway spurs in Texas, to name a few. ToThAc (talk) 21:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. DrStrauss talk 21:11, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose without further justification. The proposed syntax has a slightly different connotation from the current title. These roads are spurs of Kansas state highways, not State highway spurs that happen to lie in Kansas. Instead, move the Texas article to conform with this one and List of Arkansas state highway spurs. Also consider WP:TITLECHANGES (" If an article title has been stable for a long time, and there is no good reason to change it, it should not be changed"). I'm not sure which "convention" applies here; I could only find a brief, poorly-attended discussion here that dealt with the main state highway lists, not these titles. — AjaxSmack 23:52, 28 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@AjaxSmack: Texas spurs are actually different—they may share their numbers with state highways, loops and farm-to-market roads, to name a few. I guess since you mention it, I will also nominate List of Arkansas state highway spurs. ToThAc (talk) 00:30, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Support some move—the general convention is to name these types of articles as "List of foo in bar", and the the proposed title handles that. (For illustration, WP:USRD/S&L has the titles of the various state highway lists for the 50 states and 6 territories.) If the terminology needs a bit of a tweak, might I offer "List of spurs of state highways in Kansas" as a potential option. Imzadi 1979 → 13:21, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support - as noted above, road articles are always titled "List of foo in bar", and the move will make this WP:CONSISTENT with others as mentioned. The oppose above is just splitting hairs. De facto the titles mean the same thing. — Amakuru (talk) 08:25, 6 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comment These routes appear to be spur highways, but don't appear to be "spur routes" in the typical sense of the term. Everything on this page has a mainline highway designation (e.g. "K-22") and not a spur designation branching from a "parent" highway (e.g. "K-22 Spur" that might intersect K-22). So unless these are somehow officially classified as spur routes, maintaining them as a list of spurs seems misleading. I suspect this was done to bring together otherwise short articles into a Rockland County Scenario-style list. (Otherwise, I would support renaming per Imzadi above.) -- LJ ↗ 18:37, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
- They are spurs in that they do not end at another state highway, not special route that requires a banner. If there is a better term, I'd be all for it. –Fredddie™ 18:54, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  - True, but should we make a list of these spur highways based on that definition? (I can think of multiple Nevada state routes that do not end at another state highway, but a list of these has not been created on Wikipedia...) In the case of the Arkansas list above, all routes are suffixed with an "S" so that is something that clearly relates them. The Texas spurs are a separate classification system. This case is different. I don't know that I have a better answer—it was just my observation. -- LJ ↗ 19:29, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    - Regardless of whatever this page ends up being titled, I do think that this is the best way to display these routes. You can only say so much when a highway was built to connect a town to the main highway system and its only history is its establishment date and a repaving or two. –Fredddie™ 21:13, 8 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      - Would List of state highways in Kansas shorter than five miles work? ToThAc (talk) 15:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
        Using an arbitrary length cut off would eliminate some highways from the list, even if the length criterion is as long as 5 miles (8.0 km). Are we looking for something more substantial for classifying these highways as the fact that they begin at one highway outside a city and connect that main highway to the city? Are we looking for documentation that the KDOT or its predecessors intended such an informal classification? V C 03:37, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support for better consistency. ╠╣uw [talk] 09:42, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

Orphaned references in List of state highway spurs in Kansas

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of List of state highway spurs in Kansas's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "kshwys":

From K-61 (Kansas highway): Kennedy, Richie. "Kansas Highways Routelog". Kansas Highways 7.0. Archived from the original on 2005-09-06. Retrieved 2008-05-05.^{[self-published source?]}
From K-55 (Kansas highway): Kennedy, Richie. "Kansas Highways Routelog". Kansas Highways 7.0. Archived from the original on 2005-09-06. Retrieved 2008-01-18.^{[self-published source?]}

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT ⚡ 12:10, 7 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Which list is this?

Is this article intended to be a list of Kansas State Highway Spurs or a List of Kansas State Highways less than one mile? Not understanding why non-spurs are included. An Errant Knight (talk) 17:49, 10 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@An Errant Knight: This is a list of routes that only connect to the state highway system at one end. For example "K-19 Spur" or "K-12 Spur" are called spurs but they connects to the state highway system at both ends so they dont belong on the list. -420Traveler (talk) 14:20, 12 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

K-162

I was looking for soviet submarine K-162, but was sent here. A Google search reveals that K-162 was renamed K-222, but is it possible to set up some sort of disambiguation page? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.189.73.100 (talk) 18:59, 17 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Done There was more than the highway and the submarine. –Fredddie ™ 00:11, 19 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]