Talk:List of Happy Tree Friends characters

New Characters

Ken Pontac said in the offical HTF forum that there are going to be some new characters in the show and that he voices one http://forum.happytreefriends.com/showthread.php?t=18807&page=164&highlight=Scrooged —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.212.85.10 (talk) 06:31, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, but I don't know who Ken Pontac is. unless it is infomation coming from the main creators and directors. Then its ok to allow that in.Tedmund (talk) 11:02, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

He is one of the writers for Happy tree frineds http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Pontac he has his acount on thr forum and is answering questions from the fans, like Warren Graff.

Can you get another reference besides the forum? If so post it here and I'll check it out. After which we will discuss about adding the new characters to the article.

I just hope it wont be difficult. Because lately we've been having problems managing the articles... Tedmund (talk) 17:53, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism problem (solved)

Someone is doing vandalism in this article. Here are examples:

1. Lumpy Is A light blue male Moose
2. Petunia Is A blue female Skunk
3. Handy Is A orange male Beaver
4. Sniffles is A blue-gray Male Anteater
5. Pop Is A very light brown male Bear
6. Cub Is A very young light brown male Bear
7. Russell is a pastel green male Pirate Chipmunk
8. Mime is A purple Deer

This is not a big thing, but it's unacceptable. The one who did this has done it on purpose. And earlier, I saw that Russell's name was changed for Rascal. We must find who did this, I'm not sure he's finished with this article.

--Mr Alex (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I corrected the character's species vandalism. And vandal the vandal has done it again. I finally found who is the responsible.Here who it is 68.191.179.217

Can anyone block him? I'm not an admin, so I can't. To any administrator that can help, please do. ginbot86 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.72.36.94 (talk) 22:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Somebody is putting wrong voice actors to the characters!!! Cuddles Voiced by Warren Graff

Toothy Voiced by Rhode Montijo)

Handy Voiced by Rhode Montijo)

Cub(Voiced by Kenn Navvaro(2005–

Mime Voiced By Nica Lorber

Flippy ((Voiced by Kenn Navarro (2006–)

I know, I warned him and he doesn't care. Someone must tell an admin quick. --Mr Alex (talk) 20:13, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

68.191.179.217's block has expired and he/she vandalized this article again. This article is not the only one he vandalized. The duration of his blocks should be longer each time.

--Mr Alex 22:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I've noticed this IP address. This person obviously has no life ^_^. I hope he/she gets a longer block time as well. I have no problem using the Report templates for people who can't control themselves. Tedmund (talk) 22:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that this vandalism issue can be resolved with semi-protection to allow better control of vandalism. Ginbot86 (talk) 20:25, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

This disscussion is pretty old now. The vandalism isn't as accurate now as it was before. But if it ever does occur as it did the last two months then we will surely have a new semi-protect template imputed to the page Tedmund (talk) 00:48, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Flaky's gender

In the article, it says that Flaky was hermaphrodite, but I'm a bit comfused about it. Flaky seems more to be female, with her voice, behavior and movements. She scream like a girl does. And if Disco Bear ignores her when he tries to seduce Giggles and Petunia, it's possibly becase of her shyness or he just didn't see her when he pushes her. Maybe if Flaky would hang out with Giggles and Petunia, he would try to seduce her too. A porcupine can't realy be hermaphrodite anyway. Do you agree with me ? If not, tell me why.

--Mr Alex (talk) 04:11, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

According to Mondo Media's site, Flaky is indeed a male. Ginbot86 (talk) 04:04, 12 October 2008 (UTC) Is a boy ¬¬ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.216.178.112 (talk) 16:52, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Actually, she's female. It was on the site. --65.30.143.155 (talk) 00:11, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, someone keeps changing her to male on here, and they are missing valuable information on her. I don't know an admin, but can someone contact one and ban them? About to change it right now. 76.169.236.237 (talk) 04:08, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Flaky is abrosexual.

Did Toothy kill Splendid?

I want to know if Toothy killed Splendid in Class Act(He causes the school to explode).

Well even if Toothy,the bucktoothed beaver we all have to love, did in fact start the fire

it cannot be said for sure if he killed Splendid or not. Even though there are a lot of random

deaths in Happy Tree Friends this one kind of strays from the random acts of blood and gore.

Although he did gather everyone close to the school before it blew up.This topic is arguable

so I'll just let it be for now. But since Splendid is indestructible which was shown in the HTF Shorts,

"Wrath of Con", there is a bigger chance that Splendid did not in fact die.

pictures

Could the other characters get pictures too(also the enemy)

Lumpy's nostrils

It says Lumpy is the only character to have a regular nose as opposed to having a heart for a nose. What about Sniffles? Oh, and I would re-check Handy's kill count. Only 2!? I can think of three people Handy has killed (Although two of which were quite indirect) right off the bat! One more thing, It says Slendid the Squirrel was only killed once, yet on his death count, it shows he had died twice. Please consider all of these changes.

Whoops, sorry, the message above belongs to me, y'know, with the noses and Handy's kill count? Forgot to put the signature =P Jugulation 21:39, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Jugulation

OK, For your first part it says that "[Lumpy]is the only character with a standard nose with two nostrils". It is also a debate if Splendid died in "Class Act" as well as "Gems the Breaks"Midnight1212 22:58, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Um... wrong section...but I fixed that, you kinda mixed the "Giggles and Petunia as damsel in distress" section. --Dark paladin x 18:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, Dark paladin x 70.185.171.58 00:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)Jugular

animal species kinda "too" specific

I kinda generalized the animal species of Happy Tree Friends character more. The creators only say that Cuddles is a bunny/rabbit and Giggles is a chipmunk, but NOT specifically Eastern Cottontail and Eastern Chipmunk. Also, Disco Bear, Pop, and Cub could be Grizzly Bears instead of Brown Bears, since Grizzly Bears have the same fur color as brown bears. And Flippy isn't a "black" bear since he's green. --Dark paladin x 01:21, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

how?

)how did flippy supposdely kill cro marmot i want to know can someone please let me know63.164.225.201 02:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)medayugiohman

Does anyone think the characters' mental disorders/flaws should be listed?

Mime might be schizophrenic,as seen on one episode when he thought he was saving sniffles from drowning.
HE'S A MIME. Lammy is schizophrenic because she sees Mr Pickels as a real character

Images

The character articles need images. —Preceding unsigned comment added by N.Flen (talk • contribs) 02:33, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

BetacommandBot 14:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Mittens/Honey Death?

The Cat featured in Tongue Twister Trouble was said to have died in Blind Date, that cat is completely different, but you see Mittens/Honey in Who's To Flame, so you can definitely verify what i'm saying here.
Pyro Python (talk) 20:25, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Mittens or Honey?

Can someone please tell me if they know the actual name of this cat, because i very much doubt it would take this long for anyone to decide on a name for a character/creature.
Pyro Python (talk) 20:26, 27 January 2008 (UTC) They do not have a name for the cat. Ginbot86 (talk) 04:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Kill/Death stats

Put the kill/death stats back up, please. Don't re-create the old articles, just use the character template. 75.157.191.45 (talk) 15:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Why? What's notable about the kill/death stats? Have they been covered in reliable sources? Powers ^T 16:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

The videos themselves. They're notable because we could make a scoreboard. 75.157.191.45 (talk) 18:07, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

We could make a scoreboard for a lot of things; what third-party sources have provided coverage that would indicate that they are a suitable topic for an encyclopedia? (Hint: read Wikipedia:Notability and Wikipedia:Reliable sources.) Powers ^T 21:15, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

At least link to a scoreboard on some other site. 75.157.191.45 (talk) 18:28, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Main Characters Merging

Guys, i've had a talk with one of the guys involved with duscussion about this merge, LtPowers, and he says that there was an agreement that all that data had no point, it was just too much for character bios (i don't know exactly how).
But if you want to find a way around it, check out my and LtPowers talk pages and think it through, because we can't pull off an undo, it will be deleted again.
Pyro Python (talk) 17:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Merge/Split

There seems to be some consternation over the merging of the individual character articles into this one. Oddly enough, no one now objecting bothered to comment on the discussion which was prominently linked at the top of every affected page. I point out that the original article split, which occurred in October, was performed without any discussion at all; no attempt at garnering a consensus was made.

Furthermore, I point out that once excessive plot summary (which includes kill/death counts, and pretty much anything else except voice actors and episode appearances) is removed from the character articles, there would be nothing left. We'd be left with the one or two lines currently present here in the merged article.

To those who object to the removal of information, you have two real choices. First, you could find reliable, third-party sources for the information you wish to include. Second, you could create a Happy Tree Friends wiki on Wikia and put the information there instead.

-- Powers ^T 14:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

To be honest, I wasn't willing to restore the main characters' articles until the images got deleted, they all deserve a main image. The porpose of restoring the articles is first of all, to illustrate each characters. One of the reasons that the characters were merged in a list was because there where way too much imformations. The content in my articles where the same as in the list exept that there is a table and a Trivia section. This makes a very good deal, there wouldn't be too much imformations, each main character would have their own images, the list of characters wouldn't have too many images and this would allow a few other characters to have an images too, though, we don't need to upload any more images. And I would add that the tables would be useful for reader who just want to make a quick check on basic informations such as a characters' gender and species. Images like the one on the main one in the list are perfect for recurring characters, not for main characters. Compare my version of a main character article and the one of wikia, as an example check Cuddles, which one is bigger mine, or Wikia's? What do you think

--Mr Alex (talk) 19:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

PS: The character bios have improved, they have much more verifiable sources.

Watch the Capitals!

There are many capitalization errors throughout the article but I haven't enough time to get to them. Can somebody help? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginbot86 (talk • contribs) 18:25, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Page lock

I'm requesting this page locked! Only able for the current developer to edit it! People keep editing the bio! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.242.32 (talk) 19:57, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I think this page needs only a standard lock for registered users, not anonymous people and newly registered users. There are quite a few problems with the page that involves vandalism. --ginbot86 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.72.36.94 (talk) 22:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree only registered users should have priviledge. Tedmund (talk) 03:08, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Please semi-lock this page. Theres a huge act of vandilism from unregisterd users! Tedmund (talk) 22:22, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Well thanks to one of the helpful admins of Wikipedia, it seems my request for the semi-lock has finally been fulfilled. Its for 1 month and ends may 20th, 2008. After this expires I hope not to expect anymore vandalism from unregestered users. But I would still like all of the people contributing to this article to report any users who has permitted any acts of vandalism. Thank You! Tedmund (talk) 04:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Flakys hair loss Disease?

Hey if anyone knows if Flaky does have a disease which removes her hair (in this case her eyelashes) please add it in. I saw it there a few days ago but it seems like its been deleted. And I'm unsure if this disease exist. Thankyou!

Tedmund (talk) 03:04, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Not that I know of. It was probably vandalism. Ginbot86 (talk) 04:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Has Sniffles ever survived?

Admittedly I haven't seen every single episode, but from the numerous ones I have seen, it seems like Sniffles has never survived a single one. Could someone point out an instance where he hasn't died? If not, this really should be noted in the article. --Machchunk | make some noise at me 03:39, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi Machchunk. To tell you the truth, there has been a couple of episodes where sniffles made guest appearences and survived. But they were only episodes where he had been shown for about a minute or two. Although, I will check for you. If I find anything from the internet or tv series, I will add it immediately. Tedmund (talk) 04:27, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi again. After checking up on some tv and internet episodes I have gathered a bit of infomation on sniffles deaths. They have been added to the article as I said. But if you have anymore "Non-False" infomation about his deaths please feel free to add them. Thankyou Tedmund (talk) 05:19, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Slow down on Images

Hey guys I'm becoming concerned about the image copyright tag-template on the characters page,

Because of this I'd like everyone to restrain from uploading anymore pictures on the characters article. You can change or replace existing images. But please don't post any new images on this article. Only Until I can remove this thing from the page.

Please comply to my request. ThankYou!

(Unless someone else can explain why its there and on how to remove it, please do). Tedmund (talk) 19:07, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

• Certainly - it can be removed when all the images on the page comply with our non-free image policy, which you can read at this page. BKNFCC 08:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes

I didn't find any HTF userboxes, so I created two ones.

Code	Result
{{User:Alex 8194 /Userboxes/HTF}}	User:Alex 8194 /Userboxes/HTF	Usage
{{User:Alex 8194/Userboxes/HTF Fan}}	HTF fanThis user is a Happy Tree Friends fan and would die like its characters if this show didn't exist.	Usage

forgot to mention the page protection expire!~

Sorry guys. I ment to remind you that this would expire on the 20th. But we can always get a new one placed on this page. In the mean time just watch out for vandalism again from random IP's. If any vandalism occurs please remove them ASAP!

If the vandalisms is very high again like last time I will request another semi-lock (Any registered user can request it here:Wikipedia:Requests for page protection) Tedmund (talk) 18:27, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry, I check this article regularly, but I won't realy be able to detect vandalism on the voice actors. But if there is vandalism, there is high chances that I detect it.

--Mr Alex (talk) 21:51, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

PS: I think that 68.191.179.217 is the only user who vandalizes this article, and he will certainly blocked for at least a month.

--Mr Alex 02:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Copyrighted images

In order to reduce the excessive number of copyrighted images, it would be best to remove some of the less necessary ones, such as these (listed by their caption):

• "Russell" - he is already shown in the first picture on the page
• "Cro-marmot seen with no ice" - he never appears like this on the show, and his appearance can easily be made out within the ice
• "The Cow" - a cartoon cow does not contribute significantly to the reader's understanding of the Happy Tree Friends characters

--UberScienceNerd _{Talk Contributions} 17:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know what to do anymore about the images. We're Trying to save the character images!

The "Cro-Marmot seen with no ice" and "the cow" images can be removed. I can understand that those two don't seem to fit in.

But Russells image is for his character bio. Each character needs their own image. Tedmund (talk) 01:59, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

That's why I demand every character to get their own article.

--Mr Alex (talk) 00:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, how many users opinions do we need. Alex, you and I are the only ones who discuss most of anything here. We both even agreed to change the characters articles. What more does UberScienceNerd want? Tedmund (talk) 06:57, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

I don't know, maybe he/she diagrees, or he/she just knows that we can't go against the general agreement of the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of other Happy Tree Friends characters without any discussion and debates, that wouldn't surprise me, he's an admin and a RCP. But I requested comments just like UberScienceNerd recommended me to do. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex 8194 (talk • contribs)

I am merely defending the AfD consensus. The individual characters presently lack the coverage by outside sources, general consensus within the Wikipedia community, and encyclopedic content that are necessary for individual articles. However, were those standards met, I would not object. --UberScienceNerd _{Talk Contributions} 17:51, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

How about just putting screen shots from videos instead?

Tedmund

_(talk) 00:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• Screenshots would be lower quality and yet have the exact same copyright concerns. How is that an improvement? Powers ^T 12:30, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Well then give us a better idea? I'm just trying to help what ever way I can.

Tedmund

_(talk) 16:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• A better idea than what? Powers ^T 17:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm asking you dude :P...I'm starting to get a bit aggravated with all of this.

Tedmund

_(talk) 18:52, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

• Sorry, I must be missing some of the background. I don't know what's frustrating you. Powers ^T 20:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

LtPowers has taken care of several unnecessary images, almost halving the picture count. Thank you, Powers. --UberScienceNerd _{Talk Contributions} 02:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, since all 20 main characters are illustrated on the main image, we now can put a few images for the most primary characters, such as Cuddles, Giggles, Toothy and Lumpy. Only a few of the main characters would have an image, and the rest would be still be illustrated on the main image, is that a deal ?

--Mr Alex (talk) 16:59, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

To comply with fair use, we need to be somewhat picky about what we include. In this case, if we are to use more pictures, they ought to illustrate more about the characters than what they look like. For example, if we were to post an image of Flippy, it would have to bring something new to the table, like a comparison of his normal and "flipped" looks, or what he looks like with Sneaky and Mouse Ka-boom in "Ka-Pow!" --UberScienceNerd _{Talk Contributions} 21:01, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

Article splitting

Per WP:Notability, article subjects need reliable third-party sources that provide significant coverage of the subjects to be considered notable. The individual HTF character articles were merged here after extensive discussion because no one has yet found any reliable third-party sources that confer notability upon individual characters. The characters as a group may be notable, but there is no evidence that they are notable individually.

Please do not split this article out into individual character articles unless you have verifiable, reliable, third-party sources that provide significant coverage of an individual character. Even if you do have such sources, discuss them here first. Thank you.

-- Powers ^T 12:46, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Frequent vandalism

This page has been vandalized very frequently. Should we semi-protect this page? Ginbot86 (talk) 03:40, 19 January 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ginbot86 (talk • contribs) 03:38, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

The article is damaged

Under every character's infobox, It says, "Animal: ". Anyone know who did this? Ginbot86 (talk) 23:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Flaky section?

I was looking through the article and there is no section for Flaky! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.184.126 (talk) 19:20, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

I also just noticed there is not a section for Giggles either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.184.126 (talk) 19:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Pictures

I think thier should be some pics next to each character (like 1 each) same with a few of the other characters and enemies.

Also, under other chras. i noticed there is no mention of the balloon man from Mole in the City.--65.30.143.155 (talk) 00:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

68.191.179.217

i get deaf from 68.191.179.217. nobody was paina to me. One of the HTF wiki admins please block this IP with an expiry time of 4 months of 2 weeks if it vandalises indefinitly keroro or HTF pages. 142.217.17.144 (talk) 22:37 1 October 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.217.17.144 (talk)

Flaky's lack of eyelashes

The article says Flaky was intended to be female (which she is now anyway) but lacked features like eyelashes. She is an animated character so if they really wanted her to be female why couldn't they simply add eyelashes to her? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.113.0.133 (talk) 19:56, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Is it possible to reference this?

How can this article be referenced? Are any of the characters listed here too minor to be included? I worry that, as it is, the article is prone to hoax entries, original research and general cruft. --DanielRigal (talk) 23:45, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Major cut to Lumpy

In this edit I severely chopped the section on Lumpy for a number of reasons: The page has been flagged for fancruft maintenance since October 2015. There's simply too much unnecessary detail here, too much personal interpretation, too much vague nonsense about what fans think or suppose or assume, too much poorly-written content like "most people believed he dies, but he just gets harmed since his cut off hand seems to come to life and punch him, but not kill Lumpy." etc. It's garbage and it constitutes original research. Character sections should briefly describe the characters, while focusing more on real world information. How were the actors cast? Were the characters inspired by anyone in real life? Why were they designed the way they are? This is explained at MOS:TVCAST. Any interpretation of character behavior, metaphors, etc. need to come from reliable published sources. The remainder of the page needs the same level of cuts that were made in the linked edit. The previous detail is suitable for an indiscriminate fansite like Wikia, but not for a global encyclopedia. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:04, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

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Multiple Grammar Errors

Having read through this article, I found it to contain multiple grammatical errors, and when I attempted to fix these errors, I found the page is protected, could someone with clearance please take a look?

Mr_Creeper500 (Contact) 14:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Flaky's species

The reason why I changed her species from hedgehog to porcupine is because of the following bio from the Collect-Them-All cards: "Wherever there's trouble, this dandruff-laden porcupine is sure to be far, far away."

So you see? Flaky is a porcupine, not a hedgehog. Rorosilky5 (talk) 12:09, 13 December 2016 (UTC)