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Ratings table

I am going to have to agree with @YoungForever: here. This table grossly overstates the same content we already have of episode ratings. Additionally, it provides absolutely no support for mobile devices given that it extends beyond what the HTML code can handle. Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 00:16, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It causes accessibility problems as you need to scroll horizontally. Per MOS guidelines, we can't be scrolling horizontally on tables and graphs. — YoungForever^(talk) 00:22, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly. There was a huge discussion over 5 years ago about this here of which I was a participant. I don't remember much about it besides that someone was creating rating tables for shows. I'd have to discuss with Alex on where this stands now. Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 00:33, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps we should open that discussion again? I saw this. There are serious accessibility issues with the X axis of the graph. Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 00:45, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I believe there should be another general discussion about the Ratings graph again since there are ongoing problems that the Ratings graph creates. There is also List of Bob's Burgers episodes#Ratings. You can't even see the x-axis on the bar graph at all.— YoungForever^(talk) 01:28, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave a message on Alex's talk page for input. Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 02:13, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Spectacular timing, given that I performed this only yesterday! I absolutely support the removal of the ratings tables for The Goldbergs, Chicago Med and Bob's Burgers. I've tried to see if there's a way to fix the x-axis issue over the past several years, but to no avail. I do see the benefit in the template for particular series, such as at List of Game of Thrones episodes#Ratings, but this wider usage of them for longer-spanning series is too much. -- Alex_21_TALK 02:25, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I have found more pages with the graph, especially those with major accessibility issues:

I believe this is getting out of hand. It adds no new content and repeats the same content there is already available on episode summaries. The graph could potentially be used for season pages as it reduces accessibility issues. However, its use on episode list pages, the cons outweigh the pros. This includes the unnecessary table added right underneath the graphs. This doesn't make sense to me. Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 03:04, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think the ratings graph becomes a problem when TV series have 16+ episodes each season with multiple seasons. — YoungForever^(talk) 14:41, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

That's a given. One thing is for sure, the bar graph and table are unnecessary. If the trend is necessary to demonstrate, then there should be sources that confirm such trend and perhaps a line graph would be more appropriate. Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 21:01, 24 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

When there are no trends nor significant differences between each season, bar graphs and tables are useless, completely waste of space. — YoungForever^(talk) 00:01, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Do you think we should Rfc or begin a discussion at WikiProject Television for its removal? Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 19:00, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, start a discussion at WikiProject Television for some sort of guideline for rating graph first. — YoungForever^(talk) 04:58, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Perfect. I'll do that this week, and I'll ping you. Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 04:01, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]