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Episodes & DVD Releases

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I updated the episodes for the seasons of Bewitched to make it look more neat and added the DVD Release schedule too. There is also another section with the DVD releases. If anyone opposes to this let me know and we can revert it back to the way it was. Jdcrackers 21:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List format

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How about moving to the {{episode list}} template? It looks cleaner, allows for colorization, and full-width descriptions. You can see a sample at List of I Dream of Jeannie episodes.

Bewitched page bug

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There is a bug on the Season 5 and Season 6 sections where the Season 6 header appears above the Season 5 episode list. I can't edit it out. Bill (talk) 20:16, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

fixed. The season 5 table was not closed so it was automatically connecting itself to the season 6 table Mupept (talk) 20:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

date format & filming dates

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Does anyone have a preference for the date format on this page? All of the airdates are in day-month-year format, but a lot of the filming dates are in month-day-year format. Perhaps an additional column for filming dates should be made instead of having these all as separate "Notes" in each episode? Also, is there a source to cite for all the filming dates? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mupept (talkcontribs) 21:52, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, agreeing with what you said, are the filming dates the real ones, they have no source and some on the episode were fimled 2 weeks before the air date and some 7-9 months before the air date. This is not possible. Could a source be given for the filming dates. Im not going to delete them or anything. Liam74656 (talk) 00:32, 3 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See the "Recent Changes" section near the bottom of this page for the discussion and information you are looking for. 74.102.168.200 (talk) 22:44, 22 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stephens/s'/es/es'/etc.?

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This is interesting: "When a family name (a proper noun) is pluralized, we almost always simply add an "s." So we go to visit the Smiths, the Kennedys, the Grays, etc.When a family name ends in s, x, ch, sh, or z, however, we form the plural by added -es, as in the Marches, the Joneses, the Maddoxes, the Bushes, the Rodriguezes. Do not form a family name plural by using an apostrophe; that device is reserved for creating possessive forms.

"When a proper noun ends in an "s" with a hard "z" sound, we don't add any ending to form the plural: "The Chambers are coming to dinner" (not the Chamberses); "The Hodges used to live here" (not the Hodgeses). There are exceptions even to this: we say "The Joneses are coming over," and we'd probably write "The Stevenses are coming, too." A modest proposal: women whose last names end in "s" (pronounced "z") should marry and take the names of men whose last names do not end with that sound, and eventually this problem will disappear."

So... ????? "Stephens's" is definitely no good, and it's not definitely Stephenses because of the "z" sound and could be "Stephens". The writer of this article said there are exceptions to THAT, and that "we'd probably write "Stevenses" ", but that's not definitive. Who knew this would be such an edge of the knife situation? No wonder people have been going back and forth.

Unfortunately, I don't see any way to say definitely one way or the other. There is no standard, and as anyone has a right to change it either way, how do we develop consensus on a standard? I think I plan to just walk away from this hornets nest (hornet's nest?, hornets' nest?) I've now created. Sorry.Njsustain (talk) 21:50, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Recent changes

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Recent good faith edits have been irregular and are not bringing any particular improvements to the article. Please discuss what changes of formats you would like to see here. After trying to flesh out what is non-productive, erroneous, etc., I don't really see much in the way of improvements to the format (due to nothing being consistently applied in the new style) nor in the way of content.

I suggest that style changes be discussed here first so that a consistent format can be agreed upon and applied. Otherwise I suggest reverting to an earlier version. Njsustain (talk) 08:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

For example, rather than extract the filming date from the note and cluttering up each entry with "Film date:", why not make another column (Director, air date, FILM DATE). Otherwise, I think the old format was less cluttered and the recent change is not an improvement to the article. I also don't see that changing "So and so guest star" to "Guest star: So and so" is an improvement. If one wants to put the name of the guest star in parentheses after the character name or description, that is another story, but it must be done consistently and accruately, not with guesswork and/or arbitrarily. Njsustain (talk) 08:52, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Rather than undoing all the changes made, why not discuss here first, hence you are accused of WP:OWN. I suggest adding two columns: "Notes" and "Film Date". under "Notes," we can make notes of all the times Dick York missed a show (a rather significant event considering he was second-billed in the show), guest star names, and other notes like when episodes were reamde. Some of the edits I made were to undo the poorly writeen text ("it's" vs. "its" - pretty basic). At present, adding a "film date" is fine, but not when it becomes the de facto "Note".Oanabay04 (talk) 16:55, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Please see WP:OAS and take your own advice. Njsustain (talk) 20:40, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also please note that Agnes Moorehead only appeared in 3 of 5 episodes even though she was third billed. I don't think we should have a sentence in the description of every episode without her noting that she was not in it. Again, a footnote for the non-york eps is fine, but not a sentence cluttering up each. This isn't the "all about Dick York" page... it's the List of Bewitched Episodes page. If you are a fan of his, great, fine... how special for you... but that doesn't mean that every possible thing Dick York must be noted on the Bewitched episodes page. Njsustain (talk) 21:46, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Regarding a "notes" column, I don't think that's a good idea as it would be blank for many episodes, and multiple lines for others, creating a very sloppy and visually unpleasing layout. If there are notes to be mentioned (film date not included) it would be better to mention them under the episode description.Njsustain (talk) 22:41, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think a Film Date column would be good, but the only real source for these that I have seen is at Bewitched.net (http://www.bewitched.net/filmsche.htm). These lists seem to be from Screen Gems, but their provenance isn't clearly stated, especially since it's a text file and not scans. The Film Date column would also need to be more of a Film Completion Date, since the show wasn't filmed in one day. Sometimes scenes/shots would be filmed months later, but I don't know if this file on Bewitched.net accounts for that. I definitely think a Notes column would take up too much horizontal space in the tables in this article. Maybe to note in which episodes Dick York, Agnes Moorehead and David White appear (the three actors with a starring credit who don't appear in every episode), there could be some sort of code at the bottom of each episode. This could be their initials in italics in a small font. Looking at the page right now though, this might just add another layer of clutter. Mupept (talk) 23:36, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I agree that adding all that information about who appeared in which episode is unnecessary minutia. Unless E.M. herself did not appear in an episode, I don't see how the lack of a certain actor in a certain episode is particularly notable--it is certainly not encyclopedic. Regarding the film dates, I personally would like to see that information remain, but can't deny that it is not really verifiable, and would not object to all of them being removed. Njsustain (talk) 05:37, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Madre, Meet Who's His Face"

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Mupept caught another mistake. In my defense, I always thought "Mother, Meet What's His Name" was the name of the episode, so when I finally saw it was written the other way, I checked IMDB, which backed me up(!), so I changed it. Many other sources seem to have it as "Mother Meets What's-His-Name" so back it stays with no note for now. Nick at Nite's guide has this as the fourth episode. I don't know if the episode order issue should be made any clearer in the notes. I also think it would be nice to include the classic quote: "Are you a good witch or a bad witch?" [Boy], followed by "Comme ci, comme ça," [Endora] from this episode, but that's not really done in any of the other episode descriptions.Njsustain (talk) 18:03, 18 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right order of the episodes?

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On http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057733/episodes?season=1&ref_=tt_eps_sn_1 The episode "It Shouldn't Happen to a Dog" is #3 (Oct. 1, 1964) And the episode "Mother, Meet What's His Name" is #4 (Oct. 8, 1964) In this article, "it shouldn't happen...3 is #4 (June 10, 1965) and "Mother,..." is #3 (October 8, 1964) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:5C0:1400:A:0:0:0:7A3 (talk) 22:04, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What's the meaning of † ?

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Does it signal a Darrin-less episode (1968-1969, last season with Dick York)? Carlm0404 (talk) 21:41, 21 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]