Talk:List of Australian artists
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Minoguist-joe...
[edit]...I'm all for inclusiveness, but isn't it time you went back and wrote some articles about all these people? A list nof red links is not great. PiCo 01:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
I agree it, I have put in a link and page on famous australian surrealist ADi and I think others should do so with the knowledge of these artists... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adiart (talk • contribs) 12:49, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Red links?
[edit]Folks, what are the inclusion criteria for this list? The addition of Greg Lipman was reverted because it was a redlink, but there are several other redlinks already in the list.--ukexpat (talk) 13:11, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- See wp:listpeople and wp:v.--Epeefleche (talk) 14:57, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am well aware of those pages, I have been around here for a few years. My point is that if we are to be, shock horror, consistent, we should take out all the red links.--ukexpat (talk) 15:36, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- I'm in favor of that. As least where they also lack appropriate RS refs.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:12, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
- I am well aware of those pages, I have been around here for a few years. My point is that if we are to be, shock horror, consistent, we should take out all the red links.--ukexpat (talk) 15:36, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
- I generally revert the new additions that are redlinks / non-notable. A couple of years ago i remember doing a run-through, during which i left the redlinks where i was readily able to establish that the artist was notable. I didn't have the time or energy to write an article for each one though. I'm open to either keeping or leaving them. hamiltonstone (talk) 10:11, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
- I removed these redlinks. They should be noted in case anyone wants to do an article on them. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 22:34, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
Fountains of Bryn Mawr, you removed my addition which was cited and linked to a Wiki article, and where the person is clearly notable (Google, or see AustLit). I can understand not wanting a lot of redlinks cluttering the page, but Cook is on my list of articles to create and imo deserves a place on this page until I get around to it (hopefully soon). WP:LISTPEOPLE does not preclude redlinks (or even people without links at all). Laterthanyouthink (talk) 05:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- WP:LISTPEOPLE general requirement is that people be notable per Wikipedia's standard, i.e. meet the requirement to have their own article. The consensus on this list is that members meet the minimal notability of already having a Wikipedia article and to not have readlinks per: write the article first. Claiming that an artist is notable because they won X prize or are on Y list is highly subjective. The source you provided shows the artist is on a list, it proves existence... but "existence" is not notability. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 14:18, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
- How else can Women in Red "turn women blue"? Doug butler (talk) 21:00, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
- According to the page, you add them to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Art or Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Artists. In a list covering a broad topic, like Australian artists, notability is often a criterion for inclusion (WP:LSC). Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 00:31, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- If we take a hundred-word inclusion in an encyclopedia such as McCulloch, plus representation in several decent galleries as a rough guide, there is room in this list for many more names. We're not too good with Australian ballet and opera performers either. They won't score multiple "hits", but a fuller coverage is needed for our credibility. If an IP takes the trouble to add a name, there's a good chance there's an article waiting to be written. It only takes a few seconds to weed out the jokers and self-promoters. Doug butler (talk) 12:35, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- There is no broader topic than all the artists in a nation (it has to be tens of thousands of individuals that meet that title). Red links being added here really are not the result of any kind of research into their notability but instead are almost always self selected/COI. Having them pass a notability test via an already established article seems to be the best course. Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 15:36, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- If we take a hundred-word inclusion in an encyclopedia such as McCulloch, plus representation in several decent galleries as a rough guide, there is room in this list for many more names. We're not too good with Australian ballet and opera performers either. They won't score multiple "hits", but a fuller coverage is needed for our credibility. If an IP takes the trouble to add a name, there's a good chance there's an article waiting to be written. It only takes a few seconds to weed out the jokers and self-promoters. Doug butler (talk) 12:35, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- According to the page, you add them to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Art or Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Artists. In a list covering a broad topic, like Australian artists, notability is often a criterion for inclusion (WP:LSC). Fountains of Bryn Mawr (talk) 00:31, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
- How else can Women in Red "turn women blue"? Doug butler (talk) 21:00, 21 January 2023 (UTC)