Talk:List of Arctic expeditions

Not complete

I've started this timeline, but it is by no means complete. Please add to it. Carcharoth (talk) 00:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

the 2011 expedition needs to be removed. the telegraph have retracted the story and apologised with correction. That expedition fell over 400 miles short of the north pole and Ice was not free - there was still over 4 million square kilometres surrounding the true pole. This reference should have been checked before taking a stories word for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.222.36 (talk) 02:12, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Suggest referencing 1998 trans-polar autonomous ski crossing: Log of expedition. Announcement of Expedition, and 1998 documentary "Arctic Extreme: 118 Days in Captivity of Ice" Deltree -y (talk) 14:21, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Additions

I have made a number of additions, although the list is still incomplete. It would be better entitled "List of major Arctic Expeditions". I don't believe that the WW2 Arctic convoys should be included, as their purpose had nothing to do with exploration. Brianboulton (talk) 18:29, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Removed the Arctic convoys. Fixed a couple of redlinks (Luigi Amedeo, Duke of the Abruzzi, who I added to the category "Explorers of the Arctic", and Georgiy Sedov), and some other minor copyediting. Also changed Karl Koldewey to Carl Koldewey (based on de:Carl Koldewey - which has a picture, will try and get a stub or translation started) and mentioned Melville in the Jeanette entry. I will address the article name below. Carcharoth (talk) 22:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Article name

The suggestion above is List of major Arctic expeditions. Another possibility, I think, is Timeline of Arctic exploration. It would probably be best to be consistent with List of Antarctic expeditions. Maybe that could become Timeline of Antarctic exploration? Remember that History of Antarctica also exists, and that History of the Arctic does not. Carcharoth (talk) 22:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Canadian Arctic Expedition 1913-1916

Changed "Karluk Voyage" to "Canadian Arctic Expedition". Since this is a redlink, I left a link to Karluk (ship). I'm planning to start a stub, hoping someone who knows more about it than I will get interested.Dankarl (talk) 22:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Stub is finally up; cleaned up list entry. Dankarl (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

1400s

Unsourced text below was removed by an editor. Posted here pending discussion. While it may or may not be legendary, I think a source can be found.Dankarl (talk) 13:04, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

1472 Danish expedition sent by Christian I of Denmark to locate the Medieval Norse colonies and led by Didrik Pining and Hans Pothorst apparently reaches Greenland, perhaps at Ammassalik Island and - after being driven around by storm - possibly Newfoundland.

From a quick scan of the Friedland, Hughes (2003), Mills, and Nansen references in the Didrik Pining article the contention that Pining reached Greenland seems to be plausible, interesting, and unproven, but to have attracted discussion from serious scholars. If a list entry links to a well-sourced WP article do we need to duplicate the referencing here?

What I haven't seen in the sources so far is a statement that the specific objective of the expedition was to contact the Norse Greenland settlements. Dankarl (talk) 14:13, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

My sense is that it's a minority viewpoint - since there's no evidence that this group of people went to Greenland, there's not much point in listing it here. Of course, we will have to go by what the sources say. Regards, ClovisPt (talk) 17:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Nansen p 127:

"...in any case there was in his day a tradition of the voyage of Pining and Pothorst. We must therefore assume that they were despatched on a voyage of discovery by Christiern I (some time before 1481, when he died), probably at the request of the well-known King Alfonso V. of Portugal (1438-1481). As Hvitserk must be on the coast of Greenland, they seem, in agreement with the other sober statement in Purchas, to have really reached Greenland, perhaps more than once, and to have traded by barter with the natives...."

Nansen was writing a very long time ago, his work is mostly speculation, and I don't know of much in the way of modern scholars who think he is correct. Cheers, ClovisPt (talk) 20:18, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

1) So who rebuts him and what do they say re Greenland?)

2) Bear in mind, the contention is not that the visit is proved, but that it is plausible and has been considered seriously by respected scholars.

3) A list such as this is a navigational aid. The place for detailed analysis is the Pining article. Dankarl (talk) 21:16, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

"Bezvestnaya expedition"

In Russian, Bezvestnaya (Безвестная) means 'Unknown'. It's not a valid name, it just means that there was an expedition that we don't know much about, except the fact that it happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.126.20.163 (talk) 11:32, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

• Entry in Russian language Wiki article on Taymyr Peninsula presents a documented reference to an "unknown" expedition headed by Ivan Tolstoukhov. It is correctly placed in time. Best to label it with his name for clarity of reference. Moryak (talk) 15:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)

McVities Penguin Polar Relay

I just listened to https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/podcast-recounts-amazing-story-first-all-women-north-pole-expedition-180963996/--the first all-women relay to the North Pole that took place in 1997. Sounds pretty notable--is there a reason why it isn't included? 108.50.193.97 (talk) 17:56, 12 October 2018 (UTC)