Talk:List of Academy Award–winning families
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[edit]Comments, anyone? --Klantry01 (talk) 13:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- I love this page, but some of it is a little hard to follow. It's not always clear how people in the tables are related. I think that the tables are the right way to display the information, but I think we need more comments to make the relationships clear. -ErinHowarth (talk) 05:07, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
- Added notations to the Extended family table. Thanks for the feedback. --Klantry01 (talk) 15:28, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
- I deleted the stipulation in the Extended Family section that the list only included "families of multiple generations" as the Shearers and the Coens are only one generation (a set of siblings and one of the siblings spouses). And based on those two families being included technically a very strong case for Ruth Gordon and Garson Kanin (who are a man and sister-in-law) should show up in the winning extended family section and not "others," technically. I also added two facts to the siblings section, first I mentioned Peter and Jane Fonda to the nominated acting siblings section, I know this was mentioned in the extended family section, but with the mention of Fontain and de Havilland in the opining information on that section and the list of nominees after the chart, the Fonda's were the only nominated acting siblings not listed in that section, and I thought it important to list them there, otherwise one might be trying to find every set of nominated acting siblings and miss the Fondas. I also noted that Pheonix's brother-in-law and his brother (the Afflecks) had both been nominated. I understand that this is mainly a winning and not nomination list, but since the Pheonixs have not won and are listed with a short list of nominated siblings (and only acting nominees not even comprehensive regardless of award type), it was incredibly interesting to note that all the male siblings of two families connected by marriage were nominees. And if someone feels this information does not belong there, I feel it belongs in the "others" section, as would the notes concerning the nominated acting siblings in that case. I also noted that the Coppolas were the only winning family with two generations of sibling nominees-this should not be a problem since their is a somewhat analogous comment concerning the Garland/Minnellis in the Couples section. Also the Mills (Hayley and her father John) should be added to "extended families," he has a win for best supporting actor in 1971 and she received a Juvenile award in 1960, hers is not a competitive award, but as this page is counting as an honorary awards, and Judy Garland's, who is listed in the extended families section, Juvenile Award is counted in her family's total, I think it would be erroneous to leave the Mills out, but I am unsure where they would fall on the list, he has one win and no other nominations and she has just the Juvie award. I have gone ahead and added Roman Coppola as a side note next to his father, and will make a new box for him on the of-chance he wins. Also their is one family I thought about adding to the "others" section first I think it should be noted that Vanessa and Lynne Redgrave, who were already mentioned, are part of a three generation nominated family, as their father Michael Redgrave was nominated in 1948 for best actor and Vanessa's son-in-law Liam Neeson was nominated for the same award in 1994, again I know this is primarily a "winners" page, but their are already so many nominees mentioned anyway, I feel something this interesting and rare should be noted, especially when their is someone who was a producer (and not even nominated) for on the "All's Quite on the Western Front" mentioned in that section. Also in the family tallies for extended, I was wondering in nominations from non-winning members should be added to the families nomination tally, since they have technically been nominated and are technically part of the family (Ex. adding one more nomination to the Houston's tally for Tony and three to the Coppolas for Talia annd Romon, etc.) since they are part of the families. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeahNadia (talk • contribs) 09:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Here is some information about related winners in the Best Director category. Someone may want to add some of this information into the article. The source for this information is found at the following link: Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Best Director - Facts and Trivia. Thank you. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 16:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC))
Related Winners:
- 1948's Oscar-winning director John Huston directed both his father (Walter Huston) to a Best Supporting Actor Oscar and his daughter (Anjelica Huston) to a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in, respectively, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) and Prizzi's Honor (1985) 37 years later. This remarkable feat made the Hustons the first family with three generations of Oscar winners. In addition, this made the Hustons the only grandfather-granddaughter ever to win Academy Awards:
- Walter Huston, Best Supporting Actor winner for The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) (directed by his son John Huston); and
- Anjelica Huston, Best Supporting Actress winner for Prizzi's Honor (1985) (directed by her father John Huston).
- The Coppolas became the second family with three generations of Oscar winners – with Sofia Coppola's win for Best Original Screenplay for Lost in Translation (2003). (Sofia Coppola's father, Francis Ford Coppola, is a five-time winner; and her grandfather, Carmine Coppola, won for musical score on The Godfather Part II (1974).) Further connections can be made for the Coppolas – the only father-daughter-nephew grouping to win Oscars:
- Francis Ford Coppola, Best Director winner for The Godfather Part II (1974);
- Sofia Coppola, Best Original Screenplay winner for Lost in Translation (2003); and
- Nicolas Cage, Best Actor winner for Leaving Las Vegas (1995).
- Siblings Warren Beatty (Best Director for Reds (1981)) and Shirley MacLaine (Best Actress for Terms of Endearment (1983)) are related Oscar winners.
- Susan Sarandon won the Best Actress Oscar for Dead Man Walking (1995) (directed by her Best Director-nominated husband (unofficial live-in) Tim Robbins). She became the first star to win in a film directed by a spouse. Otherwise, it would be Frances McDormand who also won the Best Actress Oscar for Fargo (1996), directed by her spouse, husband Joel Coen. McDormand's brother-in-law, Ethan Coen, was the film's producer.
- Other wives nominated for films made by their director husbands:
- Melina Mercouri, nominated for Best Actress for Never on Sunday (1960), was directed by husband Jules Dassin;
- Gena Rowlands, nominated for Best Actress for A Woman Under the Influence (1974), was directed by husband John Cassavetes; and
- Julie Andrews, nominated for Best Actress for Victor/Victoria (1982), was directed by husband Blake Edwards.
- To date, no female directors have had their starring husbands receive an Oscar nod.
- Thank you. Most of this is reflected in the list already, though I will add that Robbins directed Sarandon in Dead Man Walking. For the most part, I'm only including award winners, with some nominees added as side notes. --Klantry01 (talk) 17:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I assumed that you (or some other editor) had covered most of these bases. But still, I just wanted to be sure, in case there was a fact or two that you (or some other editor) might have missed. Thanks. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 00:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC))
Here is some information about related winners in the Best Actor category. Someone may want to add some of this information into the article. The source for this information is found at the following link: Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Best Actor - Facts and Trivia. Thank you. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 12:59, 10 April 2010 (UTC))
Married Winners and Nominees:
- Only three times have married couples (husband and wife) had acting Oscars:
- Laurence Olivier, Best Actor for Hamlet (1948), and Vivien Leigh, Best Actress for Gone With the Wind (1939) and A Streetcar Named Desire (1951);
- Paul Newman, Best Actor for The Color of Money (1986), and Joanne Woodward, Best Actress for The Three Faces of Eve (1957) (Newman also directed Woodward to her second Best Actress nomination for his Best Picture-nominated film Rachel, Rachel (1968).); and
- Michael Douglas, Best Actor for Wall Street (1987), and Catherine Zeta-Jones, Best Supporting Actress for Chicago (2002).
- There are others (girlfriend/boyfriend or unmarried companions) who are close to (or who have achieved) the same milestone:
- Spencer Tracy, Best Actor, and Katharine Hepburn, Best Actress, for Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (1967);
- Amy Madigan, Best Supporting Actress for Twice in a Lifetime (1985), and Ed Harris, nominated four times (1995, 1998, 2000, and 2002) (Harris also directed himself to a Best Actor nomination for Pollock (2000).);
- Susan Sarandon, Best Actress for Dead Man Walking (1995) (directed by her Best Director-nominated husband (unofficial live-in) Tim Robbins); Robbins won Best Supporting Actor for Mystic River (2003); earlier, Sarandon was married to Chris Sarandon, nominated for Best Supporting Actor for Dog Day Afternoon (1975); and
- Others: Jack Nicholson and Anjelica Huston; Al Pacino and Diane Keaton; and William Hurt and Marlee Matlin.
- Five married couples have earned acting nominations in the same year (three times, a husband-and-wife team have been nominated for the same picture):
- Alfred Lunt and Lynn Fontanne, Best Actor and Best Actress nominations for The Guardsman (1932) (both lost);
- Charles Laughton and Elsa Lanchester, Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress nominations for Witness for the Prosecution (1957) (both lost);
- Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor, Best Actor and Best Actress nominations for Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966) (Taylor won);
- Frank Sinatra, Best Supporting Actor nomination for From Here to Eternity (1953), and Ava Gardner, Best Actress nomination for Mogambo (1953) (Sinatra won); and
- Rex Harrison, Best Actor nomination for Cleopatra (1963), and Rachel Roberts, Best Actress nomination for This Sporting Life (1963) (both lost).
- The only divorced couple to co-star in a film with each receiving an Oscar nomination:
- William Powell and Carole Lombard, Best Actor and Best Actress nominations for My Man Godfrey (1936).
- Thank you. Added Douglas Jones to the winning acting couples note. As I've said before, concentrating on winners. I've given some thought to Tracy/Hepburn. Problem is: While they had a "relationship", it never had any kind of documentable status. Sarandon Robbins are in because they had kids together, but I don't know how to place Tracy/Hepburn. They would have objected to being included. --Klantry01 (talk) 15:46, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. Yes, I understand that you are concentrating on winners (versus nominees). Nonetheless, I am providing this comprehensive information for reference: (a) for readers' interest and curiosity; and (b) for consideration in the event that this article expands to include nominees. I agree about the Tracy/Hepburn situation, also. If they were "only" boyfriend and girlfriend, then that does not really constitute being "family members" (as the article is entitled). Since Sarandon and Robbins have children together, they can justifiably be included as "family". That's my take on it. Thanks. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 18:05, 10 April 2010 (UTC))
Here is some information about related winners in the Best Actress category. Someone may want to add some of this information into the article. The source for this information is found at the following link: Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Best Actress - Facts and Trivia. Thank you. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 17:58, 10 April 2010 (UTC))
Related Winners:
- Frances McDormand won the Best Actress Oscar for Fargo (1996), thereby becoming the first star to win in a film directed by a spouse, husband Joel Coen. Her brother-in-law, Ethan Coen, was the film's producer. Other wives nominated for films made by their director husbands:
- Melina Mercouri, nominated for Best Actress for Never on Sunday (1960), was directed by husband Jules Dassin;
- Gena Rowlands, nominated for Best Actress for A Woman Under the Influence (1974), was directed by husband John Cassavetes; and
- Julie Andrews, nominated for Best Actress for Victor/Victoria (1982), was directed by husband Blake Edwards.
- To date, no female directors have had their starring husbands receive an Oscar nod.
- The only married couples who acted together in the same film with each spouse being nominated for an award were:
- Alfred Lunt and Lynn Fontanne, nominated as Best Actor and Best Actress for The Guardsman (1932) (both lost);
- Charles Laughton and Elsa Lanchester, nominated as Best Actor and Best Supporting Actress for Witness for the Prosecution (1957) (both lost); and
- Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor, nominated as Best Actor and Best Actress for Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf? (1966) (Taylor won).
- The only divorced couple to co-star in a film with each receiving an Oscar nomination:
- William Powell and Carole Lombard, nominated as Best Actor and Best Actress for My Man Godfrey (1936).
- Siblings nominated for the Best Actress Oscar in the same year:
- Joan Fontaine, Best Actress winner for Suspicion (1941), and sister Olivia de Havilland, Best Actress nominee for Hold Back the Dawn (1941); and
- Lynn Redgrave, Best Actress nominee for Georgy Girl (1966), and sister Vanessa Redgrave, Best Actress nominee for Morgan! (1966).
- Joan Fontaine (Best Actress winner for Suspicion (1941)) and double-winner sister Olivia de Havilland (Best Actress winner for To Each His Own (1946) and The Heiress (1949)) are the only sisters to win Best Actress Oscars. Siblings Warren Beatty (Best Director for Reds (1981)) and Shirley MacLaine (Best Actress for Terms of Endearment (1983)) are related Oscar winners.
- Thank you again. --Klantry01 (talk) 21:38, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome! (64.252.65.146 (talk) 12:48, 12 April 2010 (UTC))
Here is some information about related winners in the Best Supporting Actor category and the Best Supporting Actress category. Someone may want to add some of this information into the article. The source for this information is found at the following links: Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Best Supporting Actor - Facts and Trivia and Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Best Supporting Actress - Facts and Trivia. Thank you. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 00:22, 17 April 2010 (UTC))
Related Oscar Winners and Nominees:
Brother and Sister:
- The first – and only – brother and sister to win acting Oscars were Lionel Barrymore, who won the Best Actor award for A Free Soul (1930/31), and Ethel Barrymore, who won the Best Supporting Actress award for None But the Lonely Heart (1944). (Note: Famous brother John Barrymore was never nominated, nor has descendant Drew Barrymore (yet).)
- Other brother-sister acting nominees include: Jane Fonda and Peter Fonda; Eric Roberts and Julia Roberts; and Warren Beatty and Shirley MacLaine.
Brother and Brother:
- The only brothers nominated for acting Oscars were River Phoenix, as Best Supporting Actor for Running on Empty (1988), and Joaquin Phoenix, as Best Supporting Actor for Gladiator (2000).
Sister and Sister:
- Two pairs of sisters have competed against each other (when nominated simultaneously) for the same Best Actress award:
- Joan Fontaine in Suspicion (1941) defeated sister Olivia de Havilland in Hold Back the Dawn (1941) (Olivia de Havilland later won two Best Actress Oscars for her roles in To Each His Own (1946) and The Heiress (1949).); and
- Vanessa Redgrave in Morgan (1966) competed with Lynn Redgrave in Georgy Girl (1966) (both lost to Elizabeth Taylor).
- The only other sisters to have received acting Oscar nominations (Best Supporting Actress, in this case) were Meg Tilly for Agnes of God (1985) and Jennifer Tilly for Bullets Over Broadway (1994).
Mother and Daughter:
- The only mother-daughter duo to have won performance Oscars are Judy Garland (a Special Juvenile Award winner) for The Wizard of Oz (1939) and Liza Minnelli (Best Actress) for Cabaret (1972). (Note: Vincente Minnelli, Garland's husband and Minnelli's father, also won a Best Director Oscar for Gigi (1958).)
- Diane Ladd and Laura Dern are the first – and only – mother-daughter acting pair nominated for the same film in Oscar history; both received nominations for Rambling Rose (1991). In addition, Laura Dern’s father Bruce Dern was Oscar-nominated as Best Supporting Actor for Coming Home (1978). That makes them the only mother-father-daughter acting group with Oscar nominations.
Father and Son:
- Father-son acting nominees include:
- Kirk Douglas for Champion (1949), The Bad and the Beautiful (1952), and Lust for Life (1956) and Michael Douglas for Wall Street (1987); and
- Raymond Massey for Abe Lincoln in Illinois (1940) and Daniel Massey for Star! (1980).
Father and Daughter:
- Michael Redgrave, Vanessa Redgrave, and Lynn Redgrave are the only father-daughter-daughter group among acting nominees. Michael's single nomination was for Mourning Becomes Electra (1947).
- Nominated father-daughter acting combos also include: Ryan O'Neal as Best Actor for Love Story (1970) and Tatum O'Neal as Best Supporting Actress for Paper Moon (1973).
- Henry Fonda and Jane Fonda are the only father-daughter duo nominated for the same film: On Golden Pond (1981).
- Winning father-daughter acting combos include:
- Jon Voight as Best Actor for Coming Home (1978) and Angelina Jolie as Best Supporting Actress for Girl, Interrupted (1999); and
- Henry Fonda as Best Actor for On Golden Pond (1981) and Jane Fonda as Best Actress for both Klute (1971) and Coming Home (1978).
Father and Both Son and Daughter:
- The only father-son-daughter Oscar nominees are Henry Fonda, Peter Fonda (nominated as Best Actor for Ulee's Gold (1997)), and Jane Fonda.
Grandfather and Granddaughter:
- Walter Huston and Anjelica Huston are the only grandfather-granddaughter ever to win Academy Awards: Walter Huston, Best Supporting Actor winner for The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) (directed by his son John Huston), and Anjelica Huston, Best Supporting Actress winner for Prizzi's Honor (1985) (directed by her father John Huston).
- Thank you. Will add note about Diane Ladd and Laura Dern. --Klantry01 (talk) 11:32, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome! (64.252.65.146 (talk) 13:19, 17 April 2010 (UTC))
Three generations
[edit]Here is some information about three generations of related winners in various categories. Someone may want to add some of this information into the article. The source for this information is found at the following link: Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences - Best Supporting Actor - Facts and Trivia. Thank you. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 21:08, 17 April 2010 (UTC))
Three Generations:
- 1948's Oscar-winning director John Huston directed both his father (Walter Huston) to a Best Supporting Actor Oscar and his daughter (Anjelica Huston) to a Best Supporting Actress Oscar in, respectively, The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) and Prizzi's Honor (1985) 37 years later. John Huston himself won two Oscars for writing and directing The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948). This remarkable feat made the Hustons the first family with three generations of Oscar winners. John Huston became the only director to have directed both his father and his daughter to Oscar victories. Since Huston also received an acting nomination (Best Supporting Actor) for The Cardinal (1963), the Hustons are the only grandfather-father-daughter acting nominees in Oscar history. In addition, this made the Hustons the only grandfather-granddaughter ever to win Academy Awards: Walter Huston, Best Supporting Actor winner for The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) (directed by his son John Huston), and Anjelica Huston, Best Supporting Actress winner for Prizzi's Honor (1985) (directed by her father John Huston).
- A win for Sofia Coppola for Best Original Screenplay for Lost in Translation (2003) made her part of the second family of three-generation Oscar winners. Her father (Francis Ford Coppola) is a five-time winner and her grandfather (Carmine Coppola) won for Best Musical Score on The Godfather Part II (1974). Further connections can be made for the Coppolas – the only father-daughter-nephew grouping to win Oscars: Francis Ford Coppola, Best Director winner for The Godfather Part II (1974); Sofia Coppola, Best Original Screenplay winner for Lost in Translation (2003); and Nicolas Cage, Best Actor winner for Leaving Las Vegas (1995).
- Thank you. I've got most of this already, and your source misses the wierdest one: John Farrow won for his work on the screenplay for Around the World in 80 Days. His daughter, Mia Farrow, married multi-award winning composer Andre Previn. Mia left Previn, and had a long-term "relationship" with Woody Allen - which ended when Allen had an affair with Mia and Andre's daughter Soon-Yi Previn, who Allen eventually married, making him John Farrow's grandson-in-law, and completing a three-generation set. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Klantry01 (talk • contribs) 15:02, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- You're welcome. But, huh? This is totally confusing. I read your reply above 100 times, and I cannot seem to wrap my mind around it. I get that John Farrow is the first generation (and an Oscar winner). Who is the second generation (Oscar winner) and who is the third generation (Oscar winner)? I am just confused on how this all plays out. I then reviewed the information in the actual article ... but I only got more confused. Sorry. Can you please explain the three generations here for me? Thank you. Also, I suspect that this case has a lot to do with "in-laws" and "step" relationships. I think that my original source was only referring to direct blood-line descendants (to three generations). That is just my guess. But, to be sure, I'd need to understand and get clarification on the Farrow/Previn/Allen family relationships. Please explain. Thank you! (64.252.65.146 (talk) 15:56, 18 April 2010 (UTC))
- Andre Previn is John Farrow's son-in-law - the second generation. Woody Allen married Previn's daughter, and so is son-in-law to Previn and grandson-in-law to Farrow - the third generation. Even overlooking Soon-Yi Previn's adoptive status, it isn't a blood relationship - but it was too juicy to leave out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Klantry01 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
- OK, now I see. As I suspected, it is three generations via marriage (i.e., in-laws), but not three generations via direct blood-line descent (i.e., a child of a child of a person). Yes, I agree with you ... this is a bizarre scenario. Thanks for the explanation. And, thanks also for all the work that you have put into this article. (64.252.65.146 (talk) 00:06, 19 April 2010 (UTC))
2011 Nominations
[edit]Names already on the list: George Clooney, Woody Allen, Martin Scorsese Dante Ferretti and Francesca Lo Schiavo, who I only just added — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klantry01 (talk • contribs) 20:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
Janusz Kaminski
Names that will be added if they win: Brad Pitt (w Angelina Jolie)
Thomas Langmann (producer, The Artist and his father Claude Berri, a prior winner.
Terry and Ooorlagh George (research needed)
Kenneth Branagh and prior winner Emma Thompson
Michelle Williams and prior winner Heath Ledger.
Still have to research many of the lesser known names. --Klantry01 (talk) 16:10, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
Letty Aronson - Woody Allen's sister
Peter Straughn and Bridget O'Connor
--Klantry01 (talk) 21:20, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
2012 Nominations
[edit]Quick scan: Thomas Newman gets nomination #11, Roman Coppola may become #6 in his family. Have to do a detailed check on the producers and technical nominations. Not sure if George Clooney gets a producing nom for Argo. Klantry01 (talk) 15:21, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
In the producers, George Clooney and Kathryn Bigelow are already on the list. Tim Bevan is Vanessa Redgrave's former son-in-law, so might join the list. Klantry01 (talk) 21:36, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Janusz Kaminsky is already on the list. Klantry01 (talk) 18:21, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
As afr as I can tell, that's about it. Thin field this year. Klantry01 (talk) 18:59, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Frank Sinatra is Woody Allen's "father in law"???
[edit]Are you kidding me? That is ridiculous. Echoedmyron (talk) 02:30, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
- I agree. I have removed Sinatra from that family. Allen's father-in-law is Andre Previn, who is already listed in that family group. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:49, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Restored as a side note, as "stepfather-in-law". Too juicy to leave out. --Klantry01 (talk) 18:45, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
- Sinatra is not even Allen's stepfather-in-law. He was never Soon-Yi's stepfather. If Mia Farrow were to marry someone else, he would be Soon-Yi's stepfather. But Sinatra was Farrow's husband before she married Andre Previn, with whom she adopted Soon-Yi. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:56, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
- Restored as a side note, as "stepfather-in-law". Too juicy to leave out. --Klantry01 (talk) 18:45, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
2013 Nominations
[edit]Names already on the list:
Possible additions:
- Brad Pitt (producer, 12 Years a Slave)- will make Angelina Jolie's entry complicated
- Spike Jonze - ex-husband of Sofia Coppola
- Thomas Newman - 12th nomination!
- Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez - couple nominated for songwriting for Frozen
- Neil Corbould is nominated for visual effects in Gravity, and his brother Chris Corbould is a previous winner. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klantry01 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
John Toll and Lois Burwell
[edit]I just found out that John Toll and Lois Burwell are married, who both won for Braveheart, however they were not married till 1998, so should they be added? Wgolf (talk) 20:42, 8 March 2014 (UTC) Well I think they should count, so if anyone wants to, go ahead and add them. Wgolf (talk) 01:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
Not sure how to add them in-so can someone else? Thanks. Wgolf (talk) 14:46, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
- Good catch. They are added to the list. --Klantry01 (talk) 18:46, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Winner married to two other winners
[edit]The article currently says:
Lauren Bacall is the only winner to have been married to two other winners (Humphrey Bogart and Jason Robards).
What about Julie Andrews? Her first husband, Tony Walton, won for Best Art Direction-Set Decoration for All That Jazz, and her second husband, Blake Edwards, won an Honorary Award. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:43, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
- Very good catch - I had missed it. Note and list revised. --Klantry01 (talk) 18:47, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
Pitt and Jolie
[edit]Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are married now, so their names should be added to the list of couples with separate awards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.210.38.129 (talk) 18:01, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
What about nominated couples who neither (or just one won)
[edit]Like I know there have been instances of husband/wife sharing nominations never winning (Usually in screenplay), or in different cats (like Peter Wier and his wife have both been nominated). Now not for the main page-but I think this could be a interesting collection to mention on the talk page. (Granted it will take a while). Wgolf (talk) 18:26, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
- Also I know there has been a few parent/child nominations that never won and siblings. Wgolf (talk) 18:29, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
Jay Boekelheide and Todd Boekelheide
[edit]Here are 2 brothers that have won that I'm surprised are not mentioned: Jay Boekelheide and Todd Boekelheide. Someone add them on here (not sure how to put them in the format, so if someone can, that be great!) Wgolf (talk) 02:20, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Can someone add them on here? I'm afraid I might mess it up if I do. Wgolf (talk) 16:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- posted --Klantry01 (talk) 17:40, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
The Minkler's
[edit]There is Bob Minkler and Michael Minkler who have both won for sound (Bob is Michael's uncle) Wgolf (talk) 18:11, 30 September 2014 (UTC) Another one if someone can add that be great. Wgolf (talk) 16:12, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
- posted --Klantry01 (talk) 17:41, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
Any instances of more then 2 siblings winning Oscars?
[edit]Other then The Marx brothers. But I was wondering this as I was looking at the siblings and noticed that there were always just 2 listed, hasn't there ever been any time where a 3rd one has won? (Not counting extended family either) Wgolf (talk) 06:04, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Which if Paul Corbould ever wins a Oscar that could be the first time it happens! (Has no page yet but he was nominated this year) Wgolf (talk) 06:06, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Move discussion in progress
[edit]There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Academy Awards which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. —RMCD bot 13:19, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
2015 Nominees
[edit]As best as I can tell, because biographical data is unavailable for many nominees. Please post if you know of any other connections.
Already on the List:
- Brad Pitt - Producer, The Big Short
- Chris Corbould - Visual Effects, Star Wars: The Force Awakens
- Thomas Newman - Original Score, Bridge of Spies - 13th nomination
- Ethan Coen, Joel Coen - Original Screenplay, Bridge of Spies
Potential additions:
- Charlotte Rampling, Actress, 45 Years and previous winner, father-in-law Maurice Jarre
- Margaret Sixel, Editing, Mad Max: Fury Road and previous winner/current nominee, husband George Miller
- Jack Fisk, Production Design, The Revenant, and previous winner, wife Sissy Spacek
- Imogen Sutton, Short Film (Animated), Prologue[1], and previous winner/current nominee, husband Richard Williams — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klantry01 (talk • contribs) 15:49, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
2016 Nominees
[edit]Quick check of the nominees for potential changes:
- Thomas Newman's 14th nomination for Passengers.
- Casey Affleck for Manchester by the Sea
Much more checking to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klantry01 (talk • contribs) 14:56, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Paul Corbould for Doctor Strange. If he wins it will be the 1st time 3 siblings have won! (His nomination should be added to his page by the way). Wgolf (talk) 07:58, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
More:
- David Wasco and Sandy Reynolds-Wasco, couple, production design, La La Land.
- Kim Magnusson, short film Silent Nights, son of Tivi Magnusson, previous short films winner. Have to add them to the list.
- Haven't been able to establish whether Raoul Peck and Hébert Peck are brothers, I Am Not Your Negro. Raoul Peck's father was named Hebert. --Klantry01 (talk) 11:02, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
postscript: They are brothers, but they did not win. --Klantry01 (talk) 14:14, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
Academy Award database
[edit]Having problems with the best reference source for Academy Award data - oscars.org's database. Where you used to be able to link to an individual's award and nomination list directly, the link now shows page not found. I think the Academy doesn't like people cribbing their work, and they put extra protection in.
Also, it appears they may have reorganized the database, and changed all the nominees' ID numbers, which was the key to making the reference links work.
Anyone know a better approach to this?--Klantry01 (talk) 15:08, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- I'm not sure what might be a suitable work around for this problem, but I did notice two things: (1) lots of the citations are to IMDb pages and (2) the citations are not very well formatted over all.
- IMDb is generally considered to be user-generated and thus not reliable for Wikipedia's purposes, especially for information about living persons per WP:BLPSPS. In some cases it might be OK in some cases as explained in WP:RS/IMDb and WP:CITEIMDB, but it would be better to find corroborating secondary sources if possible.
- With regard to the formatting, all of the citations are basically formated as <ref>{{cite web |url=http://us.imdb.com/name/nm0790454/awards |title=IMDb Awards page |publisher=[[IMDb]]}}</ref> with the only difference being the urls. This means they all look the same to the reader in the "References" section. It would be much better to flesh out the citations a bit per WP:CITEHOW using more of the parameters for Template:Cite web#Parameters, particulary
|title=
and|accessdate=
. This will provide the reader more information about the source and make it easy for others to cleanup any problems with link rot that sometimes happens. In addition, Template:dead link could be used per WP:DEADREF for those citations which are no longer accessible online, which will let others know there is a problem that needs to be fixed. The citations still have value, so they do not need to be removed, but tagging them as "dead links" will place them in the maintenance category Category:All articles with dead external links. Their are actually editors and bots who go around looking for ways to fix such problems. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:21, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Just to add on to the above about formatting, there are also parameters
|deadurl=
,|archiveurl=
, and|archivedate=
which can be used. Archives of many webpages can be found via the Wayback Machine. For example, I found an archived version for the "Michael Kanin" entry citation here. Some webpages have been archived multiple times, so it may be possible to resolve some of the dead links in this manner. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:32, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
Family members on same nomination
[edit]Jim Sheridan and his daughters Naomi Sheridan and Kristen Sheridan were all nominated for the the screenplay of In America. Anyone know of a similar three-fer? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klantry01 (talk • contribs) 22:02, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
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2017 Nominees
[edit]Quick check of the nominees for potential changes:
Already on the list:
Potential additions:
- Ex-spouses Lesley Manville and Gary Oldman, if both win.
- Two couples nominated for shared documentary work:
- Mother-daughter Agnes Varda and Rosalie Varda
Klantry01 (talk) 19:07, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
for future addition Chris Overton and Rachel Shenton won for documentary The Silent Child, but are currently engaged. Klantry01 (talk) 11:09, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
Willard Van der Veer and Frank Van der Veer
[edit]So I was looking over Oscar winners and found these 2 that have been missing for a long time-but there is Willard Van der Veer and Frank Van der Veer who are father and son! (Wow given the fact that the first one was in the 30s and the son was in the 70s) If someone can add them in, great! 67.0.192.32 (talk) 00:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
Gene Warren and Gene Warren Jr.
[edit]Well someone was vandalizing the Oscar pages a few months ago which is how I just found this, the father Gene Warren won for The Time Machine, where his son Gene Warren, Jr. won for Terminator 2. (I was finding links going to the wrong one which is how I discovered this one) Wgolf (talk) 01:01, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
2019 Nominees
[edit]Preliminary list: Names already on list
- Martin Scorsese
- Randy Newman
- Kristen Anderson-Lopez and Robert Lopez
- Michael Minkler
Will join with a win:
- Joaquin Phoenix
- Thomas Newman
- Christian P. Minkler
Klantry01 (talk) 19:56, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
Sam Mendes is already on the list. Noah Baumbach and Greta Gerwig have a son together, and Baumbach was married to nominee Jennifer Jason Leigh
Klantry01 (talk) 16:57, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Brad Pitt is already on the list.
Question: Are Julia Reichert and Jeff Reichert related? If so, how? Klantry01 (talk) 19:04, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
Open question
[edit]In 2019, cousins Thomas Newman and Randy Newman are competing for Best score. Are there any other instances of non-spouse and non-sibling direct competition? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Klantry01 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
- While not a particularly interesting addition to the list, since it involves the exact same people, Randy Newman and Thomas Newman also competed for Best Musical or Comedy Score for 1995 (Randy for Toy Story and Thomas for Unstrung Heroes). These are the only times that any of the Newman cousins have competed against each other. There have been three years when Thomas and Randy were both nominated but in different categories (in each of those cases, Thomas was nominated for Best Score and Randy was nominated for Best Song). Thomas's brother David Newman has one nomination (Anastasia, 1997), but none of the other Newmans were nominated that year. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:08, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Newman nomination confusion
[edit]The Newman's are listed as having 12 wins, 76 nominations, which seems to be Alfred's(45)+Randy(20)and Lionel(11). This doesn't include the other nominations mentioned afterwards for David(1), Thomas(15) and Emil(1). Shouldn't the full amount be 93 or do I misunderstand? --ScottishNardualElf (talk) 09:48, 20 May 2021 (UTC)