Talk:List of 70 mm films

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I'm moving this list from the 70mm article to clear that article up. --Allseeingi 00:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A film made in the German Democratic Republic or Poland or Soviet Union IS NOT European? Really? So how does ideology replace geography? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.196.81.181 (talk) 14:04, 5 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Update: I've taken the liberty of greatly enlarging the list, but including only those films which were completely filmed in 65/70mm. A separate list can be made for films partially filmed in 70 (such as Close Encounters or Tron) and for blow-ups like Sleeping Beauty. And then there's that long list of Soviet films .... -- Eyecatcher, 26 January 2006

Bratya Karamazovy/The Brothers Karamazov (Soviet 1969), Szerelmi álmok – Liszt/Loves of Liszt (Hungary/Soviet 1970), Knyaz Igor/Prince Igor (Soviet 1970), Goryachiy sneg/The Hot Snow (Soviet 1972) - films shot on 35 mm in anamorphic and blown-up to 70 mm. Film Szerelmi álmok – Liszt/Loves of Liszt wasn't shown in film service of the USSR in 70 mm. Only 35 mm anamorphic! The information on a shot of this film in 65\70 mm is erroneous!!! 00:27, 23 January 2012 Dmitry

Poema o more/Poem of the Sea

The film Poema o more\Poem of The Sea hasn't been shooting on a negative of 70 mm. It is an error! This film shooting in anamorphic 35 mm format on system Sovscope (Lomoscope 35 mm) ---Dmitry —(talk) 13:54, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've provided citations of three different sources who disagree. (The imdb trivia on this title is quite detailed about the use of a Todd-AO camera).

Also, have you got a source for the large number of Sovscope movies which have just been added to the list ? Barry Wom (talk) 15:26, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the reference which I have read, it is written that system TODD-AO was "probably used". This film never shooting on negative 65 mm, nor on 70 mm. There is a lot of a Russian literature on cinema where it is said that this film was shot simultaneously in anamorphic format of 35 mm and 35 mm with the academic aspect ratio (1.37:1). As at that time (1959) not all cinemas in the USSR have been equipped by film projectors for wide-screen (anamorphic) film display. Also, working film negatives of this film are stored in the state film storehouse of Russia (Gosfilmofond) only in 35 mm! Also, this film was never shown at cinemas of the USSR in a format of 70 mm. The first Soviet 70-millimetric film was Povest Plamennikh Let\The Flaming Years (about it is written in all Soviet and Russian encyclopedias).-------Dmitry 16:01, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

The authors of the book Wide Screen Movies for which I added a citation claim that the "Soviet credits bill Todd-AO" which makes it sound like they have actually viewed a print of the film. Have you seen the film and if so was there a Todd-AO credit ?

Is it possible that the Gosfilmofond negative is a duplicate negative from the 65/70mm original for making 35mm prints ? Barry Wom (talk) 11:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've just found a 1959 review of the film in the New York Times and it states that the film was begun by Alexander Dovzhenko and completed by his wife after his death in 1956. If at least some of the footage dates from 1956 then it's extremely unlikely that the film was shot in 65/70mm.

Many thanks for your huge contribution to the article by adding all those Sovscope 70 films ! Barry Wom (talk) 11:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, in this film isn't present TODD-AO credits. Article in Wide Screen Movies Book is a fatal error. At the time of the USSR negative materials, and also positive copies were checked in Gosfilmofond without fail! Negative materials of film Poem Of The Sea in 70 mm there are absent. Positive materials in 70 mm also are absent. As I already spoke, the film has been shot simultaneously in two formats: anamorphic 35 mm and 35 mm (1.37:1). Actually, a film exists in two different versions (anamorphic and 1.37:1), but they have been shot equally and to distinguish a difference it is possible only by detailed consideration of shots.

Dmitry —Preceding 12:22, 9 February 2011

Aleksandr Dovzhenko has died during time pre-production this film. All film has been shot by his wife Yuliya Solntseva. In the book (biography) about Aleksandr Dovzhenko it is said that it was against filmings of this film in anamorphic. During time pre-production he has noticed that anamorphic does distortions along the edges of a shot and reduces sharpness in depth of a shot. But on shooting a film in anamorphic the Soviet film officials as at that time in Soviet Union few films in this format were shot have insisted and it was necessary to change the film industry from a usual shot (1.37:1) to wide-screen. Yuliya Solntseva was director the first Soviet 70-miliimetric film Povest plamennykh let\The Story of the Flaming Years (the film has been shot on the first Soviet 70-millimetric movie camera 70SK). The author of the film script was Aleksandr Dovzhenko. It is a great film! Also, Dovzhenko was the author of film scripts of other 70-millimetric films - Zacharovannaya desna\The Enchanted Desna (1964) and Nezabyvayemoye\The Unforgettable (1967). Director these films also is Yuliya Solntseva.

Dmitry —Preceding 13:24, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Why no Soviet/European films?

The title of this article is NOT "list of HOLLYWOOD 70 mm films", so why can't it mention European films filmed in the format? Is there another list that does this? Eyecatcher above mentioned a "long list of Soviet films" for example, but I can't find it...

By the way, the 1967 film "Playtime" which is on the list was made in France... so...? Esn 05:59, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

To whomever is editing these things out - you are biasing the article to a degree considered POV and unacceptable. Further reversion without discussion will be considered vandalism and treated accordingly. Girolamo Savonarola 20:04, 6 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"65/70" seems ambiguous. Would it read better as "65 or 70"?

The 70 mm film article explains the system. (65 mm film also directs there.) Girolamo Savonarola 15:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Apocalypse Now

Isn't it shot in 70mm as well? --Tiktuk (talk) 16:09, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Star Wars

In the docco on the Special edition VHS of Star wars they mention that the restoration was done by going back to the "Original 70 mm negative", so should Ep. 4 of Star wars be included in this list?Winterdenni (talk) 13:56, 2 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tag removal

I've spent considerable effort tidying this page up, so unless anyone has any objections I plan to remove the update tag.

Also, are references or sources really required on a simple list of films ? Either a movie was shot in 70mm or it wasn't. Barry Wom (talk) 14:55, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tags removed Barry Wom (talk) 08:47, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No Hindi Films Mentioned

A Whole Lot of Hindi films, espescially Ramesh Sippy's films, were on 70mm, please mention those —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.182.163.140 (talk) 02:18, 26 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They were all blowups; none originated on 65mm stock Barry Wom (talk) 15:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

Apparently, according to IMDB.com, the above is a "70 mm 6-Track (70 mm prints)". Should this be included? Link of article here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102975/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.144.84.57 (talk) 03:36, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No, as it was filmed in 35mm and blown up to 70mm for exhibition. The first six Star Trek movies had this treatment. Barry Wom (talk) 07:17, 31 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Additional 70mm films

I remember Apocalypse Now, The Deer Hunter, Superman (1978), and The Wall being exhibited in 70mm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.116.174 (talk) 14:13, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This list only includes films that are photographed in 70mm. There are many more that were filmed in 35mm and transferred to 70mm for exhibition, but these are not true 70mm films. Apocalypse Now was one such film. Betty Logan (talk) 15:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

PT Anderson 70mm

"The Master" can now be added!

http://www.in70mm.com/library/process/_all/index.htm

'Movies partially shot using the Panavision System 65/Super 70 include "key sequences" from "Inception," "hyper-reality" scenes from "The New World," selected special effects shots from "Spider-Man 2". The last feature filmed entirely in the format and presented in 70mm appears to be Kenneth Branagh's "Hamlet" from 1996. ' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.240.153.18 (talk) 23:39, 19 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Dunkirk

This article is a list of films shot in standard 5-perf 65/70mm, hence the exhaustive list of formats covered in the introduction. Dunkirk was only partially shot in one of these formats.

There's also a link in the introduction to the List of IMAX films article to indicate that 70mm IMAX films are not covered here. Although strictly speaking Dunkirk shouldn't be in that list as it's supposed to be for films shot "in full" in IMAX, I've gone ahead and updated the entry for Dunkirk there to clarify. Barry Wom (talk) 11:20, 16 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sleeping Beauty (1959) and The Black Cauldron (1985)

It shouldn't be necessary to say this over and over again, as I have done in recent days, but these were both shot in Technirama, which is a horizontal 35 mm process. There is a very good explanation on YouTube here.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 12:26, 29 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Is 'Star Wars: Episode 9' actually being shot on 65mm?

I know that was the original plan, but that might've changed since the director change. Does anyone have any information on this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:196:4701:C160:6999:6718:682A:6CF3 (talk) 21:15, 16 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is sourced here but that was back in 2016. It would be better to have something more up to date, but Star Wars: Episode IX doesn't help here. The film is not scheduled for release until December 2019.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:50, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How much of 'The Nutcracker and the Four Realms' was shot on 65mm?

I know that it was at least shot partly with 35mm, though I thought it wasn't used as much as 65mm. Out of around 99 minutes of the film, how much of the film was shot on 65mm? Or at least what percentage? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:827F:A62C:8057:2787:42CF:CCB3 (talk) 23:56, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Some sources say that The Nutcracker and the Four Realms was shot on 65mm, but it's not quite that simple because many recent 65mm films have used a range of formats rather than 65mm throughout. IMDb here says that the film was shot on 35mm and 65mm, but the ratio isn't given.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:42, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am aware of this as well. I just thought that the majority of this film was shot on 65mm with some 35mm used.

It's hard to say unless there is sourcing. It's clear that selected scenes were shot on 65mm, but it's unclear how much of the film used 65mm.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:40, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New information about 'Star Wars: Episode 9 - The Rise of Skywalker'

Apparently, Kodak says that this was shot on 35mm and 65mm:

https://twitter.com/Kodak_ShootFilm/status/1116756881383542784

The problem is, I don't know which one was a primary format for this film. Does anyone have any information on which format was used more frequently? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:827F:A62C:894E:FC2E:4148:A56D (talk) 05:41, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

See the section "How much of 'The Nutcracker and the Four Realms' was shot on 65mm?" above. Typically, Hollywood does not shoot entire movies on 65mm nowadays, but uses it for selected scenes. It is hard to give an exact breakdown without reliable sourcing. There is some more detail on the technical specs for Star Wars: Episode 9 here. My guess is that 65mm is used for the action and special effects sequences. It is less suitable for drama sequences, eg in The Dark Knight, the IMAX cameras were so noisy that all of the lines spoken by the actors had to be replaced afterwards in the dubbing studio. Christopher Nolan also decided against IMAX for the whole film because it would have been too expensive. Only the set piece action sequences were shot on IMAX.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 06:11, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

True... but weren't 'Dunkirk' and 'Murder on the Orient Express' almost entirely shot on 65mm format? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:827F:A62C:894E:FC2E:4148:A56D (talk) 06:35, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Dunkirk and Murder on the Orient Express are listed as mostly 65mm with some additional digital cameras on IMDb.[1][2] As usual, Kodak hasn't given an exact breakdown of which scenes in Star Wars: Episode 9 are shot on 65mm. There is some more sourcing here.--♦IanMacM♦ ^{(talk to me)} 07:09, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]