Talk:Lispenard–Rodman–Davenport House

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I move out the following passages, added to the article by a non-logged in IP editor. I would strongly prefer for the editor to get a regular wikipedia account, probably via some kind of unban process, so that the editor could establish a reputation for accuracy or whatever, and enjoy other benefits.

About the material added.

The house is the oldest residential structure in New Rochelle.

That statement is not supported by the NRIS generic reference that ends the paragraph. It may well be true, but no support in a reliable source is provided. Please feel free to post specific references here, and/or to email copies of scanned material to me.

In 1708 Antoine Lispenard bought from Jacob Leisler's son a half interest in the peninsula, or neck, between New Rochelle Creek and Long Island Sound. Six years later he bought the other half. Across the inlet he built a dam and a tidal gristmill. Each incoming tide filled a millpond behind the dam, and then, as the tide ebbed, the water was released through a millrace to turn the mill wheel. Nearby the mill, on the neck itself, Lispenard built his home, a stone house of one-and-a-half stories, with the front eaves extending to form the roof of a wide porch. In 1732 he sold his property to Joseph Rodman who later doubled the size of the house. After the Revolution, the property came into the possession of the Davenport family, and so is currently known as Davenport's Neck.

In wikipedia articles that are anywhere near Featured Article nomination, each individual paragraph is usually supported by one or more footnotes. This paragraph has no source indicated. Perhaps the source at end of next paragraph is supposed to apply here. If so, the reference should be given here. This is kind of harsh to remove it from an article not up for FA consideration, but there is a lot of history on NR-related articles, and I am just choosing to remove it for discussion at least here, in lieu of deleting it (which at least some would feel is justified).

Generations of the Davenport family, and other owners after them made further changes to the house, so that the original structure built by Antoine Lispenard and Joseph Rodman is largely invisible. In the 1860s, the original roof was replaced by a modified mansard, topped by a cupola. Restoration by the late Louis Ferguson managed to reveal and preserve several elements of the original structure such as the hand-hewn beams of its frame and the lime mortar made from local oyster shells, used to cement its stone wall.^[1]

^ nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9506E0DE1F3FF936A25751C1A960958260 "Reunion for Three Families Spanning Three Centuries", NY Times 1996

Actually i haven't looked at the stated source for this paragraph yet. Moving out from article for review. It is kind of strict to do that, but honestly I don't know how to handle text added by an anonymous IP editor. If i review it and see that it is supported adequately by the stated source, i'll add some or all of it back. doncram (talk) 06:08, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, attempting to show the reference here now. It is not a valid link. I'll wait to review the reference until the writer fixes the reference here. My apology if the reference actually worked in the article before i moved it to here, but I think that is unlikely, i moved it in whole part. It should be the obligation of the writer to get the link to work, not me. doncram (talk) 06:12, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NRHP application source needed

The article mostly needs the NRHP application document and associated photos added. I've added such to lots of NRHP articles. For NYS NRHPs, the documents are available on-line, at NYS source identified within the information for editors written up at wp:NRHP. Once the documents are found on-line, a footnote reference can be constructed by copying and modifying a similar reference, such as one available within the Knickerbocker Press Building article about a different NRHP nearby. doncram (talk) 09:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9506E0DE1F3FF936A25751C1A960958260 "Reunion for Three Families Spanning Three Centuries", NY Times 1996

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