Talk:Lise Meitner/GA1
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Reviewer: Hog Farm (talk · contribs) 04:43, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
This one's of decent length, I'll try to see if I can get through it in one chunk or not.
- Lead
- "She was praised by Albert Einstein as the "German Marie Curie" - Not in the body. It's cited in the lead, so it's not a major issue, but if it's important enough for the lead, it can get slung into the body somewhere as well.
- Slotted it in down the bottom. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Link isotope, it's a touch technical.
- Education
- "Women were not allowed to attend public institutions of higher education in Vienna until 1897, and she completed her final year in 1892" - Her final year of what in 1892? Evidently not higher education, as that wasn't allowed until 5 years after she completed her last year.
- added "of school". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- " In July 1901 the girls sat and external examination at the Akademisches Gymnasium." - This just doesn't read right to me.
- Deleted "d". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Friedrich Wilhelm University
- Rutherford was just linked at the very end of the previous section; I don't think it's really necessary to link him twice in three paragraphs.
- Unlinked. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- "Hahn the same age as herself " - Maybe this is an engvar thing, but I feel like there ought to be a "was" in there
- There ought to be. Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- World War I
- "Meanwhile, she completed the both work on the beta ray spectrum that she had begun before the war with Hahn and Baeyer, and her own study of the uranium decay chain" - Does the first "the" add anything to this? It doesn't in the variant of English I speak.
- Should be "both the" Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- "not only Hahn but most of the students, laboratory assistants and technicians had been called up, so Meitner had to" - Not everyone's gonna know that called up here means called to active military service
- Suggestions welcome. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- "In February, Meitner extracted 2 grams of silicon dioxide (SiO2) from 21 grams of pitchblende. She set 1.5 grams aside and added a tantalum pentafluoride (TaF5) carrier to the other 0.5 grams," - For this and the other weight measurements, use the {{convert}} template to provide conversions to ounces. I'm a reasonably well-educated American, and I have only a foggy idea of what an ounce generally amounts to
- That's because there are multiple types of ounce. In this case, the conversion to US customary would be to drams. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- "The export of uranium was forbidden due to wartime restrictions, but" - So by export, are you meaning export from Austria into Germany?
- Yes. added "from Austria". Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Beta radiation
- The caption of the image in this section names who all is in the front row, but there's one more person in the row than the sum of listed names + Meitner
- Looks fine to me: Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- "Women were granted the right of habilitation in Prussia in 1920" - Can we get a gloss for habilitation
- Already linked above in the bit about Hahn. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- "He physics section became larger," - Is this supposed to be "Her" or "The"?
- Her. Corrected. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Escape from Germany
- "He gave her a diamond ring he had inherited from his mother in case of emergency" - Is he Hahn or Rosbaud?
- Hahn. Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Later life
- "For her friends in Sweden, Siegbahn's obstruction of Meitner's Nobel Prize was the final straw" - it's mentioned that Swedish scientists stopped her from getting it, but not that Siegbahn specifically was involved
- Added a bit more about this. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- "The professorship fell through when the Ministry for Education, Tage Erlander, unexpectedly became the Prime Minister of Sweden, but Borelius and Klein ensured that she had the salary of a professor, if not the title" - it's unclear why Erlander becoming PM stopped her from getting the title
- He was no longer the minister for Education. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- References
- Ref 145 (book of members) isn't working for me, although it's a redirction error, not a 404, so it may just be on my end or a temporary outage
- Restored from archive. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Ref 151 (Hahn PDF) is dead
- Updated the link. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Rhodes appears to have something off in the subscription required parameter
- The spam link should not be overriding the wiki-link. Removed. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Worldcat gives an OCLC for Yruma
- Infobox
- All three of her doctoral students are only mentioned there and need cited
- Commented them out for the moment. Will have to look them up.
- Ditto for the other students
- You list Exner as her advisor, but wasn't Benndorf involved, too?
- Yes, Added. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- You say she was an Austrian citizen until 1949, but didn't she lose it in 1938?
- She became a German citizen. But Meitner never claimed German citizenship, and travelled on her Austrian passport. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:49, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
That's it from me. Hog Farm Bacon 00:15, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, so I think this one meets the GA criteria as is. I also think it's pretty close to the A-Class requirements, although I'd have some additional comments at that level, mostly in the way of the commented-out students and a bit of prose polishing. Good work. Passing. Hog Farm Bacon 01:55, 14 October 2020 (UTC)