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Fair Use of Imagery

It is my understanding that "fair use" of photography, via Wikipedia standards, can allow the use of a copyrighted photograph if that image is discussed, either in detail or in passing, in an article. Is this correct or incorrect? If correct, the Vogue cover should not have been deleted in such a preemptory fashion and without discussion. Mowens35 12:15, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

My misunderstanding, after more careful reading Wiki guidelines, which are as follows: Note: It is not acceptable to use images with this tag in the article of the person or persons depicted on the cover, unless used directly in connection with the publication of this image. Such usages will be removed. MY UNDERSTANDING IS NOW THAT: If the use of a Vogue cover is necessary to illustrate the Fonssagrives article, it would be best to use one that is of Fonssagrives's FIRST cover for Vogue, which could then be discussed in the article as her first of X number of appearances. Is this an acceptable understanding? Thoughts would be appreciated. Mowens35 12:23, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is any of the 200+ covers specially notable? If so, is it being discussed? If so, is the discussion dificult to understand when the reader is not seeing the cover? If so, add the image. Please, note that changing the article text to make some random cover seem specially important degrades the article. Best regards, --Abu Badali 13:31, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Extraordinary unsourced claims

Does any one plans to do a review to add sources to this article? I've asked for some references almost a month ago an nothing has changed. If no one cares, I plan to clean up this article from extraordinary unsourced claims like "no model has surpassed her number of Vogue magazine covers" and weasel words statements like "Many consider Fonssagrives to be the first supermodel". Thanks, --Abu Badali 03:06, 21 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I've removed some of the unsourced claims, but there's still work to do in this article. --Abu badali ^(talk) 08:21, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 23:08, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Supermodel" ?

How can someone be assigned a modern label retroactively? At the time of Ms Lisa Fonssagrives' career, the term "supermodel" did not exist. The term "supermodel" clearly refers to modern-day, highly paid, extremely famous models. Even if Ms Fonssagrives was highly paid and extremely famous, she cannot be labeled a supermodel. -The Gnome (talk) 09:42, 18 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lisa Anderson?

Lisa's surname was never Anderson, although Anderson is a common name in sweden Lisa was actually born as Lisa Bernstone. Changed that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tantgredelin (talk • contribs) 19:06, 3 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ballerina

Fonssagrives move to Paris to study ballet ^[1] but became a model instead. The Washington Post mentions in passing that she was a ballerina, ^[2] but I cannot find any other information concerning this. — Robert Greer (talk) 21:10, 9 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

footnotes

Nationality

Is there a reason why you keep adding "American" categories to Lisa Fonssagrives page when it is widely reported that she is Swedish? What is your source that says she is American? According to her birthplace, ethnicity, and her interviews, she and her children say she is Swedish. So where are you getting she is American? She is an immigrant living in America, but that does not make her American. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.251.135.149 (talk) 14:51, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

The above was posted here, and seems to be legitimate question. Other than the fact that she was living in the United States when she died, is there any evidence that she was naturalized as an American citizen? If not, then such categories would be inappropriate. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 15:23, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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[1] The Fashion Insider

[2] tuary of Irving Penn (her hustband) by Adam Bernstein and T. Rees Shapiro, October 8, 2009

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