Talk:Liquidity crisis
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Merge to credit crunch
[edit]- support That's the more often used term, and a much better written and sourced article. Someone who works on this article should redirect it and merge as needed. NJGW (talk) 05:46, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
- against Credit crunch is NOT synonymous with liquidity crisis, it is a species of liquidity crisis. --Coatilex (talk) 08:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- comment if you have a source for that then we can settle this right now, but the article has no sources and as such is total OR. It could easily be speedy deleted. NJGW (talk) 16:38, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
- against Just as said by Coatilex, Credit crunch is NOT synonymous with liquidity crisis, it is a species of liquidity crisis. What is in our mind ? I added some sources, but of course we could find better sources. Eumachia (talk) 13:35, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- RonPaulRonPaul tried to find better sources for a long time. If you have better sources, bring them up at the talk page of credit crunch. NJGW (talk) 15:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- I added sources, and we are 3 saying that you acting alone are wrong. Can you find some sources stipulating that the 2 terms are synonym... ? Stop deleting the article or I will complain. Eumachia (talk) 19:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- You added two poor sources. Please familiarise yourself with wp:Reliable sources. Also, what 3 are you talking about? Go bring up the discussion at talk:Credit crunch where it is centralized already. By the way, are you Ronpaulronpaul? NJGW (talk) 06:34, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not Ronpaulronpaul; the fact that Ronpaulronpaul was sometimes wrong does not imply that he was wrong here.
- Nouriel Roubini is not a poor source. The discussion on Talk:Credit crunch is about a merger of "credit squeeze" and "credit crunch". It is not about a merger of "liquidity crisis" with "credit crunch". This talk page is the most appropriate. Eumachia (talk) 14:15, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." It's time for you to find usable sources or move on. NJGW (talk) 09:52, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
- You added two poor sources. Please familiarise yourself with wp:Reliable sources. Also, what 3 are you talking about? Go bring up the discussion at talk:Credit crunch where it is centralized already. By the way, are you Ronpaulronpaul? NJGW (talk) 06:34, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
- I added sources, and we are 3 saying that you acting alone are wrong. Can you find some sources stipulating that the 2 terms are synonym... ? Stop deleting the article or I will complain. Eumachia (talk) 19:00, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
- RonPaulRonPaul tried to find better sources for a long time. If you have better sources, bring them up at the talk page of credit crunch. NJGW (talk) 15:08, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
- There are sources and Nouriel Roubini is a very reliable source.
- This merger discussion will be closed soon unless new arguments. Stop wasting my time. Eumachia (talk) 23:53, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- Against Read Krugman's book on a Return to Depression Economics if you want to know what a liquidity crisis is. A credit crunch is different.
- In a credit crunch is a symptom of a liquidity crisis. That is one can not get lending.
- A liquidity crisis is what happens when money is not being spent. That is there is no liquidity or revenue.
- Say our currency is not the way it currently is, but instead there was a fixed amount of currency, such as with the gold standard. Sooner or later it will become unevenly distributed. Wealthy people will have lots, and poor people will have little. And because money does not inflate, there is no reason to invest. The liquidity crisis is in that the wealthy people with the money do hire, because they already have all the money. The poor people do no work, because no one is hiring. And, nothing is produced, because no one is working and no one is hiring. So, now there is no liquidity at all, and the wealthy people with all the money can't buy anything, because there's no product.
- That's the idea behind a liquidity crisis, and it doesn't require any credit at all. But, if there was credit, a liquidity crisis would cause a credit crunch, because the people with money would not lend, because the people who need money would not work.
- Again, over simplified, but that's the basic idea. This article shouldn't be moved, but it could be correctly defined in the article. MBThomason (talk) 20:50, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
- Against If you have upcoming cash to transfer, whatever the reason, and you intended to meet that requirement by selling some of your securities, and it appears that nobody is willing to buy them from you, you have a liquidity crisis even though no credit is at stake.Bmathis (talk) 11:11, 15 February 2010 (UTC)