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There are persistent rumours that Bart was not the real author of Oliver!. One version, current in the 60s, was that an unknown woman offered the score and book of the musical to the same theatrical agency which represented Bart, and that her rights were bought out for a substantial sum. Subsequently, after the score was professionally orchestrated and the book and lyrics improved, the work was produced with Bart's name attached as its author. It was rightly believed that the name of Lionel Bart, as an already established and well-known pop singer, songwriter and lyricist, would ensure the musical's success. The fact that Bart could neither read, write nor play a note of music and that he never rose to the heights of inspiration and invention displayed in Oliver! before or afterwards can only fuel doubts about its true authorship.

If this is citable, fine, even though I think it is still ridiculous. There are great songs in Blitz! ("Our Hotel", "Tell Him-Tell Her", "Who's This Geezer Hitler?", "Is This Gonna Be A Wedding?", a play clearly written from his personal experience. -- Jmabel | Talk 04:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

More uncited rumor cut:

  • "although another version states that he was on a bus which went past Bartholomews Hospital in London, and that propmpted the idea"
  • " Around that time it is suggested that Oliver! was making Bart 14 Pounds every minute, and he had homes in several parts of the world"

- Jmabel | Talk 20:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply] 

Kirby Steve (talk) 23:17, 11 July 2019 (UTC) Could I suggest that all undocumented rumours like this should omitted unless they have been authenticated by thorough research. Perhaps an extra section could be added summarizing these rumours in general terms, without coming down for or against them. We can look at other Wikipedia articles to see how they handle other controversies for example the authorship theories around the works of Shakespeare (for example some people claim that his plays were written by Francis Bacon).[reply]

"Bart"

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This edit substitutes one plausible explanation of him taking the name "Bart" for another. Neither is cited. Does someone have a citation on this? - Jmabel | Talk 02:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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At the moment, it is one (vacuous) page with two pictures that may well be copyright violations. If it comes together as a substantive web site, it might be fine to re-add, but at the moment that would be premature. - Jmabel | Talk 17:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Saint Martin's School of Art

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I am currently working on a biography of Lionel Bart and would very much like to get in touch with the contributor who added the section on St Martin's School of Art. Silvester23 (talk) 09:57, 6 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Quasimodo

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The Wikipedia article. on Lionel Bart pomits LB's musical 'Quasimodo' which was based on Victor Hugo's novel 'The Hunchback of Notre Dame'. I haven't done any research yet but it was performed (& premiered) in London in 2013 15 years after Bart's death. I personally saw it @ the Charing Cross Theatre ( London). Kirby Steve (talk) 22:27, 11 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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