Talk:Li Yong (poet)

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The result was: promoted by RoySmith (talk) 03:53, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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• ... that Tang dynasty poet and calligrapher Li Yong was executed for attempted treason?
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Amou Haji

Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Self-nominated at 22:59, 28 October 2022 (UTC).

• Looks good
  • Prose size (text only): 3720 characters (615 words)
  • Article created by Kingoflettuce on October 28, 2022
  • Source for hook: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Li_Bo_Unkempt/AgaVEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Li%20Yong%20treason
  • Suggestion for more interesting hook: ALT1 ... that Tang dynasty poet and calligrapher Li Yong was executed for treason by flogging with a bamboo staff?

• Hmm, how about

• ALT2 ... that Tang dynasty poet and calligrapher Li Yong joined a coup to kill Empress Wei, avoided a death sentence for corruption fifteen years later, but was executed for attempted treason another 22 years later?

as yet another alternate hook? As I read the article, that last "attempt" wasn't actually real and fabricated by Li Linfu, but that's not stated explicitly in the article. If that were true, it would be even weirder, since then the hook could focus on that he had commited treason, but was sentenced to death for an instance where he hadn't. –LordPeterII (talk) 20:18, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

• Nevermind, ALT2 is too long, will have to be trimmed somehow. But yeah @Kingoflettuce if you could confirm that the final death sentence was fabricated, I'd like to adjust the hook in that direction. (btw promoters please don't promote until this is solved) –LordPeterII (talk) 20:21, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Have added "falsely" in front of accused to echo what the source states. Appreciate your input! Kingoflettuce (talk) 21:30, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

• ALT3 ... that Tang dynasty poet and calligrapher Li Yong was falsely accused, then executed for treason by flogging with a bamboo staff? — hike395 (talk) 23:45, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

@Kingoflettuce: Nice! Then how about

• ALT4 ... that Tang dynasty poet and calligrapher Li Yong committed treason by helping kill Empress Wei, but in 747 was falsely accused and executed for attempted treason?
• ALT4a ... that Tang dynasty poet and calligrapher Li Yong committed treason in 710, but was falsely accused and executed for attempted treason in 747?
• ALT4b ... that Tang dynasty poet and calligrapher Li Yong was falsely accused and executed for attempted treason in 747, but had actually committed treason 37 years earlier?

The type of death might be added or not @Hike395, though I personally think the irony alone is strong enough. –LordPeterII (talk) 20:22, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the additional suggestions, LordPeterII. Whatever floats your boat; I have no particular preference. ALT4b seems catchiest though Kingoflettuce (talk) 21:37, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

with ALT4b — hike395 (talk) 18:12, 3 November 2022 (UTC)

Correction

According to Chinese Wikipedia, Li Yong's father, Li Shan, only annotated the Wen Xuan, while the actual compiler was Xiao Tong. Kingoflettuce, what do you think of this? Mucube (talk · contribs) 22:00, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Hmm, just have to go with what the source says. Chinese Wikipedia may well be right but have you verified their source? Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 22:30, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Ah, just double-checked the source. Missed "...commentary". Xiao Tong is mentioned indeed although I don't think it's relevant to mention here. Thanks for the heads up! KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 23:18, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

By the way, I've replaced a lot of stuff about the Wen Xuan from the early life section with a simple link to the Wen Xuan article, because I think the content would be better covered on the main Wen Xuan page. Mucube (talk · contribs) 23:49, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, didn't realise it had its own page. KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 14:18, 16 December 2022 (UTC)