Talk:Leyland P76

Uniquely Australian?

I've been hunting down cases of "uniquely Australian" after Talk:Sport in Australia#Uniquely Australian?.

If the P76 is "uniquely Australian", what makes it qualify as that? The size of the car itself can't be it, because the article states that it was made to compete against other large cars. Besides, Americans are also accused of being infatuated with large cars. Andjam 12:23, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps it was "uniquely Australian" to the management of Leyland? But your right, sounds like marketing blurb.

Technically speaking it could be considered "uniquely Australian" if it was unique to Australia and never sold in other countries. However, it *was* sold in other countries so nothing unique about it. Asa01 20:30, 1 January 2006 (UTC)

It's uniqueness comes from being the first all Australian designed and built mass produced vehicle. Other cars at the time and even today, that are built in Australia are derived from American or European designs. 220.253.27.47 13:10, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

The P76 was "uniquely Australian" in its conception, design, production, and sale. It was conceived in a company obsessed with small engines and small cars, as a large V8-powered car and was unique in that manner since Australians (and Kiwis) prefer large V8-powered rear-drive cars. It was only sold in those two markets (though it would have reached the UK in volume had Leyland Australia not collapsed), also making it uniquely Australian. Consider the Ford Falcon and Holden Monaro as other "uniquely Australian" cars... --SFoskett 20:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Since "unique" means "the only one", if there are several similar cars (Falcon, Monaro) then they aren't unique. "Unique" is a word very frequently used incorrectly. Phrase seems to now be out of the article. Let's keep it out. It sounds vague and like a marketing blurb. P76 is certainly notable, recognisable, quite famous, and had unusual circumstances, but we can say all that without resorting to calling it or anything about it unique. I guess it is true that among the other cars from its company, it was unique as being the only V8, but that does not mean shove the general phrase "uniquely Australian" at the top of the article. Asa01 19:32, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Lemon

To this day the P76 is considered a lemon of Aussie motoring. When I ask my dad and other ol' timers why this is the case (I was too young to remember the car itself), they can't really give me a good answer. It sounds to me the car was as good as any other mechanically, so the label is probably unjustified.... maybe it refers more to the supply problems outlined in the article. Can anyone shed any light? --Jquarry 22:07, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

There was nothing 'Lemon' about the P76, altho it did have problems with build-quality, and a couple of design 'features' that were not beneficial, such as welded-on front guards, the mainstream preference being for bolt-ons to facilitate easy repair. P76' biggest problem was the myopic vision of management at BL, who ultimately controlled what Leyland Australia was doing, P76 and Force 7-V were both attempts by Leyland australia to break that mold, whereas if BL had their way, the operation would be building and selling Marinas, Minis, and Mokes

P76 was the first Australian Built car to feature McPherson-Strut front suspension, Rack and pinion steering, and a host of other innovations, all because it was designed from the ground up, not merely a rehash or facelift of an existing model.

Some people were indeed critical of the styling, some lines didnt quite sit right, but the wedge body styling was not matched by others for many years, if ever, but that wedge shape was what gave it the 44-gallon drum in the boot ability

P76 was also criticised and called P38 simply because it wasn't a Holden or Ford, the Bogan argument that continues to this day — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.170.95.36 (talk) 08:28, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

The P76 was a lemon, as were all of the Leyland cars of the time, particularly the Marina. The only decent bit of engineering was the alloy V8 motor, and most of these ended up in 4x4s, after the P76 body was discarded. P76s were usually seen driving around with misaligned, missing, or rusty body parts. The 70s oil crises affecting P76 sales is more journalism rather than fact, as GM and Ford 8cyl and 6cyl sales were much less affected.220.244.78.226 (talk) 23:45, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Runs on Cheddar Cheese?

I just noticed (and giggled) this part. I have no exp with editing actual main pages so I thought I'd leave it upto someone else. "At least one station wagon (estate car) prototype, which shared the sedan body but with more upright rear door frames, was also built. It runs on chedder cheese."202.12.233.21 07:59, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

P38

The car was sarcastically nicknamed the P38 by a few people because it was "half the car" it should've been. I'm not going to add that to the article as I don't have any references. Also, I'm surprised nobody made mention of the notorious door window issues these things had. If you slammed the door on a P76, you ran the real risk of the window coming out of its tracks and falling into the door frame. I was told on good authority by a mechanic that this was a cockup on Leyland's part at the factory due to inexperience with the Loctite glue they used. Naturally, I don't have any refs for this either, but I thought I'd put it here. Peter Greenwell (talk) 10:45, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Plenty of cars made in that era had that problem, including, but not limited to, the Chrysler Valiant, Ford Cortina and Vauxhall Chevette. Manufacturers took a few years to get the spot welded monocoque construction technique right. Of more concern were the smoking carpets (exhaust pipe too close to body) and the unreliable ribbon cables.203.26.122.12 (talk) 04:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

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