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Male-specific homophobia?

(Since no one is paying attention to this, I'm moving it up to the top.) If we're going to have a "lesbophobia", there ought to be a male-specific equivalent article, because it DOES exist, and quite frankly lesbian women and straight men are generally the groups displaying these problems. Is there even a phrase for this? Gayphobia? If this isn't going to happen, then lesbophobia needs to be merged with homophobia. You aren't going to have one and not the other. --24.21.148.155 (talk) 01:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Anybody have an answer for this???? Looks like a legitimate question to me --98.232.176.109 (talk) 02:55, 12 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Twelve years later, this conversation is happening now. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gayphobia. Louisianajones1978 (talk) 16:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lesbophobia exists as a subset of homophobia because it is at the intersection of misogyny and homophobia so it creates a different type of discrimination. "Male-specific homophobia" is just homophobia, as there is no additional discrimination. Gay men experience discrimination because they are gay not because they are men, but lesbians experience discrimination for being women and for being gay, which creates a unique set of discriminatory practices against them. C.canovi (talk) 16:51, 14 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your argument outright denies the statement of 24.21.148.155 "it DOES exist" without providing evidence. This is not a constructive discussion anymore. 31.20.106.40 (talk) 08:29, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Remove section stating "sexual orientation change efforts aimed at women [...] are worse than those aimed at men"

They're both bad. "[that they] often include rape [and are therefore] worse than those aimed at men" is a logical fallacy, as rape of homosexual men with the intent of "changing their sexual orientation" seems to be not unheard of either (don't have a source to reference). The only difference then would be the frequency, which would then be saying "that because there aren't enough other men that were also raped your rape is less bad", which is tasteless. 31.20.106.40 (talk) 08:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]