Talk:Leonine verse

"All of which rhyme in the center" (1911)

Here's the only extract of Leonii Historia Sacra I can find:

Hystorie sacre gestas

Principio massa pariter congesta sub una

Quatuor hec elementa deus non qualia certis

Usibus apta vides nec res sed semina rerum

Materiamque rudem fierent qua cuncta creavit

Tunc nichil in terra solidum nichil ethere clarum

Nec fluere unda potens nulli sua forma vel usus

Nec vitalis erat infusus spiritus illis

Cuncta sed ignavis torpebant merse tenebris

Spiritus ergo dei sese super illa ferebat

Vivificoque sui vegetata calore creandis

Fetibus apta dabat lucisque ut luce creatis

Rebus inesset amor primam splendescere lucem

Jussit et attendens quod pulcra quod utilis esset

Divisit lucem a tenebris semperque vicissim

Nunc hanc nunc illas sibimet succedere fecit

Ordine commutans vario noctemque diemque

Nam deus hec illis aptavit nomina rebus

Appellans lucemque diem noctemque tenebras

Vespere sic factum est et mane et lux ea rerum

This is quoted from p. 20 of Craig Wright, "Leoninus, Poet and Musician," Journal of the American Musicological Society, Vol. 39, No. 1. (Spring, 1986), pp. 1-35 JSTOR. It presents a problem, since it does not agree with the statements in the article. As far as I can tell, the Historia Sacra remains unpublished & has received little scholarly attention, so it will be tough to improve the article on this point. Wareh 16:56, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Punctuated to emphasise rhythm

I have split each line into three chunks using commas, to show where a pause/breath is taken by the reader to produce the rhythm intended by the composer. This does not equate to punctuation assisting meaning. The article already well explains how each line is split into three rhythmic chunks:

"As this example of tripartiti dactylici caudati (dactylic hexameter rhyming couplets divided into three) shows, the internal rhymes of leonine verse may be based on tripartition of the line (as opposed to a caesura in the center of the verse) and do not necessarily involve the end of the line at all". Lobsterthermidor (talk) 13:19, 9 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nope

Epitaph of Alan Rufus as recorded in the Chronicle of Bury St. Edmunds, Bodleian Library MS. Bodl. 297, published in Thomas Arnold, 1890, Memorials of St. Edmund's Abbey, London: Printed for H.M. Stationery Office by Eyre and Spottiswoode, p. 350.

That isn't one of the MSS for the Bury Chronicle and Arnold didn't think it was. The book clearly states it was marginalia on a copy of Marianus Scotus. — LlywelynII 05:04, 12 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]