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Reviewer: Peacemaker67 (talk · contribs) 05:50, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]


Interesting article. I have a few comments:

Lead and infobox
  • suggest "Leitmeritz was the largest subcamp of the Flossenbürg concentration camp, established by Nazi Germany in Leitmeritz, Reichsgau Sudetenland (now Litoměřice, Czech Republic). Established on 24 March 1944 as part of an effort..." also suggest pipe linking Leitmeritz and unlinking Litoměřice
    • Done both
  • suggest adding (now Audi) after Auto Union
    • Done
  • suggest "for intended production of tungsten and molybdenum wire and sheet metal by Osram"
    • Done
  • 18,000 total cited in the body, but the infobox says 16,000?
    • Oops, fixed
  • suggest "by the SS staff who administered the camp" and link SS. There is probably an argument that it should be in full, but I personally think SS is better known than Schutzstaffel.
    • Done. (I agree with you.)
Body
  • link concentration camp and SS
    • Done
  • link Forced labour under German rule during World War II
    • Done
  • I'm not sure the de link is useful to the reader, I suggest just linking to Chemnitz
    • done
  • I think it is worth mentioning that Göring was the Reich Plenipotentiary of the Four Year Plan and directed the slave labour program, as many will think of him as just the Luftwaffe chief
    • Done
  • Dachau concentration camp in full and link
    • Done
  • this could be clearer "Due to the lack of accommodation at the work site, they stayed at the Small Fortress until June, temporarily the site of a Flossenbürg subcamp, 7 kilometres (4 mi) away." Perhaps "Due to the lack of accommodation at the work site, they stayed at the Small Fortress until June. The Small Fortress was temporarily a Flossenbürg subcamp, and was , 7 kilometres (4 mi) from Leitmeritz." if that is what is meant?
    • Done
  • link Shell corporation
    • done
  • "and even the most basic safety precautions were not followed"
    • Done
  • "even more so than other Nazi concentration camps" this seems to be in Wikipedia's voice, and I don't think a survivor (who may have been to a handful of camps at most) is a good source for this assessment
    • I think it's pretty clear that this is a paraphrase of his opinion. For the second part, you have a point but on the other hand the secondary source quoted him approvingly.
      • if that's the case I think it is giving his opinion far too much weight. How could he know that? This would only be a valid inclusion if it was the opinion of an academic who had studied the slave labour system as a whole and had the expertise to make such an assessment, not a survivor who might have been at two or three camps. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:38, 7 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • OK, removed.
  • "comprising 180 machines in total."
    • Done
  • why did Osram use a cover name?
    • Source doesn't say
  • also "The cover name of Osram operating in Leitmeritz was Kalkspat K.G., responsible for machinery, power, access roads, and accommodation for civilian workers" needs tweaking, it isn't clear what is meant. Perhaps add "which was" in front of "responsible", if that is what is meant?
    • Done
  • link Hauptscharführer, Obersturmführer, Oberscharführer, Unterscharführer, Rottenführer, Scharführer, Sturmbannführer
    • Done
  • is there a first name for Schreiber, Völkner, Heiling, Tilling, Piasek and Jelinek?
    • Not in the source.
  • Obererscharführer→Oberscharführer
    • Done
  • is there a rank for Emanuel Fritz?
    • Not in the source.
  • should Captain be Hauptmann (if Luftwaffe) or SS-Hauptsturmführer?
    • The former. I had translated the title in order to be more recognizable to English readers (most of whom probably don't know a Hauptscharführer from Hauptmann), but if you think it's ambiguous, it's probably better not to.
  • "In April 1945, the population"?
    • Done
  • "In March and April 1945, 2,000 people were deported"
    • Done
  • "arrived on 9 August 1944"
    • done
  • add commas into all figures over 999 in the table
    • done
  • "not enough accommodations werewas built"
    • done
  • link tuberculosis
    • done
  • "By February 1945, a third of prisoners"
    • Done
  • "934 in January 1945"
    • Done
  • link Kapo (concentration camp)
    • done
  • add adj=on to the convert template for 40 metres (130 ft) and it will render as 40-metre
    • Thanks! Done
  • link Bohemia, or use "the Protectorate" if that is what is meant?
    • Bohemia is what it says in the source.
  • 98 died→Ninety-eight died
    • Done
  • for Lobositz link Lovosice
  • "SS commander Panicke"
    • Done
  • "The production lines at Elsabe"? I thought that was the name of the work group rather than the site?
    • Clarified
  • was Matuszkowiak executed?
    • I was unable to find out this information.
  • a bit more work is needed on the licence for File:Aerial photograph of Leitmeritz concentration camp.jpg. It is watermarked and is presumably if taken by an Allied aircraft then it should have a different licence
    • My understanding (see [1]) is that WWII aerial reconnaissance photographs were taken automatically and intended to be a faithful reproduction of what was on the ground, so there cannot be any copyright on them. I could be wrong, but that's why I used PD-ineligible. Regardless the copyright of the photograph is certainly not held by the website that watermarked it.

That's me done. Placing on hold for the above to be addressed. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:55, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]