Talk:Leicester and Swannington Railway

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Positions of stations

While checking it over I noticed that the map at the top of the page has some stations in the wrong places (Ratby and Glenfield need to be swapped over with Kirby Muxloe). MaltaGC 20:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The stations are as they were in 1874 from Williams "The Midland Railway" I have just checked the New Adlestrop Railway Map and see they are shown in the opposite positions as you describe. I've checked Whishaw but he doesn't list any intermediate stations, though at that early date there might not have been fixed stopping points. There have been a number of occasions during my research where different a ccounts have contradicted each other and I have had to take the "majority vote". I note on a modern map the village of Ratby is north of Kirby Muxloe village. It clearly needs more research. Chevin 11:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have modified the image. Williams map would seem to be wrong. Not only are there plenty of other references Williams has a map later in the book showing Glenfield on the old line and Kirby Muxloe on the new. Chevin 15:55, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Confirmation of Position and Final Locomotives

The locations are now correct (I live in Glenfield)) I stand to be corrected but my recollection is that there were only two locomotives converted to run on the line at the end. Memory suggests 78014 and 78028. I am more confident on the latter than the former. There is also no mention that an audio recording was made by Peter Handford under the title The Glenfield Goods EAF78, this has on the first side a [shortened?] journey from West Bridge through Glenfield Tunnel. The second side has some shunting between Glenfield and Ratby. The locomotive was the previous type 58148.62.64.214.236 12:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC) I have now seen some photographs which show the three locomotives were 58??? 58143 and 58148. One of the two last locomotives to be used was 78028, I haven't as yet found what was the number of the other locomotive.79.65.118.67 16:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Have just reduced from three class 2 locos to two. I always had it in my mind that there were three, but I think that you are correct and it is more likely only two were converted. Will try to confirm. Have also just added The Glenfield Goods, EAF 78. I had totally forgotten about it. MaltaGC 21:45, 8 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Added two references that both say two class 2 locos, both agree on 78028 (with photos) and one says 78013 (but no photos). MaltaGC 12:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC).[reply]

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Errors and unsourced sections

On working through this article, I am coming across numerous errors (checking with Clinker, whose research was always thorough and painstaking).

The steam trumpet, although confidently described by Stretton on page 27, is throughly debunked by Clinker, and it is difficult to avoid the conclusion that Stretton was so intrigued with this claim of a worldwide first that he allowed the notion to get into print without challenge.

The "Remains" section is almost without citations; as original research, it was written in 2007 and is in the present tense, so any statement made has the possibility of no longer being true.

The "motive power depot" section seems to have been pasted in from another article, and no connection to that article is made clear.

And finally railways (with timber rails, usually in and immediately outside mineral workings,) had been in existence since the 17th century; it's a bold assertion that these were never mentioned in any newspaper until 1790.

I'll attend to these matters as soon as I have time. Afterbrunel (talk) 09:31, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]