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Request renaming page

I request this page be renamed:

Lehigh Line (Conrail) → Conrail Lehigh Line or CSAO Lehigh Line

Lehigh Line (Norfolk Southern) → Lehigh Line, maybe NS Lehigh Line

Granthew (talk) 15:39, 12 December 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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As of August 11th, 2016 found the article repeatedly using a reference "Old Penn Haven" which I am globally replacing to geographic reference 'Penn Haven Junction, Pennsylvania|Penn Haven' for which there are multiple hits and web pages (about Train crashes near there, for example). The only hit for Old Penn Haven was on This talk forum.

I suspect that some author in some reference work may have used the term, and it was repeated. The Junction was occupied by the family of an agent/dispatcher before (IIRC, after the mid-1940s), and for a time supported a number of railroad maintenance sheds, garages, and equipments, and a village of men employed therein until a nasty flood (era unremembered as I write). (See Last Man at Penn Haven Junction)
Plan on making the article for Penn Haven Junction, Pennsylvania so a redirect page Old Penn Haven, Pennsylvania is certainly possible, can it be justified.

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Proposed split

I think there's more than enough material to write a standalone article on the old LV main line at Main Line (Lehigh Valley Railroad), which would cover the construction and history up through the Conrail abandonments. This article would summarize that history, but mainly cover the Norfolk Southern line which is only a portion of the old main line. Mackensen (talk) 01:33, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking of doing a new article about that, but the problem is the Lehigh Line has a very complex history that is very confusing, if the Lehigh Line kept all of the LV Easton to Allentown route, than the Lehigh Line would be a continuation of the Lehigh Valley Railroad main line, but it only retained the LV trackage from Easton to Bethlehem; the LV opened between Easton and Allentown. I though recently discovered that the LV did run a train between Easton to Bethlehem before it reached Allentown, however I'm still checking out that reference from a railfan. Right now, the Lehigh Line could be viewed as either the former Lehigh Valley Railroad main line or a replacement for the Lehigh Valley Railroad main line. I am also still figuring out when the "Lehigh Line" name came into effect.Granthew (talk) 20:48, 1 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I would advocate that the majority of the history of the line prior to the formation of Conrail be moved to the Lehigh Valley Railroad article (which largely duplicates this information already). An approach that considers all three articles (Lehigh Valley Railroad, Lehigh Line (Norfolk_Southern), and Lehigh Line (Conrail)) as extensions of one another would provide for the best all-around coverage. 67.8.203.16 (talk) 18:33, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The LVRR main line history doesn’t have to be moved to the LVRR article cause it’s already there. The official establishment of the Lehigh Line is unknown. The Lehigh Line’s establishment is either 1855, sometime during the 121 year history of the LVRR, 1976 or 1983-1985, I don’t know the answer. It would help if I had LVRR/Conrail track charts and employee timetables from 1855, 1975, 1976, 1983, 1984 and 1985, but I don’t.Granthew (talk) 06:28, 16 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]