Talk:Legislative route (Minnesota)
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C.R. 1 gaps
[edit]There are gaps in this route description from:
- Wyoming to Minn 23 just south of Hinckley (presumably I-35);
- From Moose Lake north (I-35 again?); and
- Duluth to Canadian border (U.S. 61 again).
Is this correct? Kablammo 01:05, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
The gaps where Mn/DOT does not call it CR 1 are as follows:
- I-35, exits 12 to 56
- TH 60 and TH 21 in Faribault
- I-35, exits 135 to 159
- TH 70 in Rock Creek
- I-35, exits 165 to 191
- I-35, exits 195 to 214
- TH 27 in Moose Lake
- I-35, exits 216 to 235
- I-35, exit 239 to Duluth
There are also gaps through St. Paul and Duluth, filled in 1933 by LR 102 and LR 103. --NE2 02:02, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
Some notes
[edit]I just found [1], which shows that all routes are clearly defined, even on overlaps. (It also answers a few questions and may raise a few.) After seeing that, I'm not sure if the table, which would increase in complexity, is a good idea. The highway to route mapping could be in the articles about the highways, and, in the other direction, routes 1-70 were actually signed, and so those numbers that weren't kept probably merit a separate article or a merge into another, and routes greater than 70 mostly became one highway, at least at first. Below I'll work on a list of these original numbers. --NE2 07:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
You already mentioned that you found some overlaps. I wanted to point out that MnDOT sent me an excel spreadsheet dated 2002 that actually had several cases of overlap...where there were multiple legislative/constitutional routes on a given stretch of highway. IIRC, there were a few segments that had 4 or 5 LR/CRs on them. Am waiting on a reply from MnDOT about a more recent status than 2002. Ajfroggie (talk) 21:43, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
After making the list, I find that my suspicions were correct, and most can be covered under one route. The following may have issues:
- 80: now TH 16
- 83: now TH 68
- 85: then TH 60 and TH 73, but now all TH 60
- 88: TH 39 and TH 73 (TH 39 is best)
- 98: now US 8
- 110: US 169 and TH 47 (TH 47 is best)
- 117: TH 13 and TH 100 (TH 13 is best)
- 122: TH 111 and US 14 (TH 111 is best)
- 140: now TH 172
- 144: TH 119, TH 40, and TH 73 (TH 119 is best)
- 162: now TH 200
- 168: now TH 200
- 171: now TH 171
- 181: TH 108 and TH 78 (TH 108 is best)
- 185: now mostly TH 123
- 195: now US 69
- 209: now TH 25
- 210: now TH 9
- Duluth and Twin Cities routes
The following probably do have issues:
- 116
- 127
List of original numbers
[edit]LR | TH |
---|---|
71 | TH 27 |
72 | TH 72 |
73 | TH 60 |
74 | TH 74 |
75 | TH 43 |
76 | TH 76 |
77 | TH 30 |
78 | TH 43 |
79 | TH 139 |
80 | TH 80 |
81 | TH 56 |
82 | TH 30 |
83 | TH 83 |
84 | TH 4 |
85 | TH 60, TH 73 |
86 | TH 86 |
87 | TH 22 |
88 | TH 39, TH 73 |
89 | TH 47 |
90 | TH 19 |
91 | TH 91 |
92 | TH 47 |
93 | TH 93 |
94 | TH 94 |
95 | TH 95 |
96 | TH 96 |
97 | TH 97 |
98 | TH 98 |
99 | TH 99 |
100 | TH 19 |
101 | TH 165 |
102 | Twin Cities |
103 | Duluth |
104 | Twin Cities |
105 | Twin Cities |
106 | Duluth |
107 | Twin Cities |
108 | Twin Cities |
109 | Twin Cities |
110 | TH 47, US 169, Twin Cities |
111 | Twin Cities |
112 | Twin Cities |
113 | Twin Cities |
114 | Twin Cities |
115 | US 218, Twin Cities |
116 | TH 56, TH 55, US 52, Twin Cities |
117 | TH 13, TH 100 |
118 | TH 36, Twin Cities |
119 | TH 7 |
120 | TH 110 |
121 | TH 5 |
122 | TH 111, US 14 |
123 | TH 112 |
124 | TH 109 |
125 | TH 51 |
126 | TH 49 |
127 | Never built? |
128 | TH 57 |
129 | TH 152 |
130 | TH 100 |
131 | TH 115 |
132 | TH 95 |
133 | TH 70 |
134 | TH 107 |
135 | TH 27 |
136 | TH 89 |
137 | TH 6 |
138 | TH 85 |
139 | TH 84 |
140 | TH 72 |
141 | US 71 |
142 | TH 55 |
143 | TH 104 |
144 | TH 119, TH 40, TH 73 |
145 | TH 40 |
146 | TH 17 |
147 | TH 7 |
148 | TH 103 |
149 | US 12 |
150 | TH 4 |
151 | TH 15 |
152 | TH 9 |
153 | US 52 |
154 | TH 68 |
155 | US 212 |
156 | TH 56 |
157 | TH 18 |
158 | TH 11 |
159 | TH 65 |
160 | TH 1 |
161 | US 63 |
162 | TH 34 |
163 | TH 63 |
164 | TH 33 |
165 | TH 46 |
166 | TH 1 |
167 | TH 169 |
168 | TH 92, TH 31 |
169 | TH 92 |
170 | TH 1 |
171 | TH 73 |
172 | TH 11 |
173 | TH 1 |
174 | TH 73 |
175 | TH 81 |
176 | TH 116 |
177 | TH 32 |
178 | TH 102 |
179 | TH 82 |
180 | TH 78 |
181 | TH 108, TH 78 |
182 | TH 34 |
183 | TH 3 |
184 | TH 106 |
185 | TH 23 |
186 | TH 66 |
187 | TH 101 |
188 | TH 55 |
189 | TH 118 |
190 | TH 27 |
191 | TH 117 |
192 | TH 48 |
193 | TH 64 |
194 | TH 13 |
195 | TH 13 |
196 | TH 38 |
197 | TH 87 |
198 | TH 26 |
199 | TH 105 |
200 | TH 112 |
201 | TH 83 |
202 | TH 37 |
203 | US 2 |
204 | TH 69 |
205 | TH 27 |
206 | TH 108 |
207 | TH 87 |
208 | TH 114 |
209 | TH 218 |
210 | TH 23 |
211 | TH 82 |
Later additions
[edit]- 212: TH 100
- 213: TH 39
- 214: TH 60
- 215: TH 210
- 216: TH 216
- 217: TH 217
- 218: TH 89
- 219: TH 219
- 220: TH 220
- 221: TH 221
- 222: TH 222
- 223: TH 223
- 224: TH 224
- 225: TH 225
- 226: TH 226
- 227: TH 227
- 228: TH 228
- 229: TH 108
- 230: Moorhead to North Dakota
- 231: TH 231
- 232: TH 232
- 233: TH 218, later TH 25
- 234: TH 234, TH 64
- 235: TH 235
- 236: TH 236
- 237: TH 237
- 238: TH 238
- 239: TH 152, now TH 15
- 240: TH 240
- 241: TH 241
- 242: TH 242
- 243: TH 243
- 244: TH 244
- 245: TH 50
- 246: TH 246
- 247: TH 247
- 248: TH 248
- 249: TH 249
- 250: TH 250
- 251: TH 251
- 252: TH 252, now US 218
- 253: TH 253
- 254: TH 254
- 255: TH 109
- 256: TH 256
- 257: TH 257
- 258: TH 258
- 259: TH 259
- 260: TH 41, now also TH 312
- 261: TH 261
- 262: TH 262
- 263: TH 263
- 264: TH 264
- 265: US 59
- 266: TH 266
- 267: TH 267
- 268: TH 268
- 269: TH 269
- 270: TH 270
- 271: TH 271
- 272: TH 272
- 273: TH 273
- 274: TH 274
- 275: TH 275
- 276: TH 40
- 277: TH 277
- 278: TH 278
- 279: TH 36, now TH 77
- 280: TH 280
- 281: TH 281
- 282: TH 282
- 283: TH 113
- 284: TH 284
- 285: Scanlon southwest
- 286: TH 286
- 287: TH 287
- 288: TH 288
- 289: TH 289
- 290: TH 290
- 291: TH 291
- 292: TH 292
- 293: TH 293
- 294: TH 294
- 295: TH 295
- 296: TH 296
- 297: TH 297
- 298: TH 298
- 299: TH 299
- 300: TH 300
- 301: TH 301
- 302: TH 302
- 303: TH 303
- 304: TH 7
- 305: TH 218, later TH 25
- 306: TH 135 (Gilbert to Biwabik)
- 307: TH 202
- 308: TH 308
- 309: TH 309
- 310: TH 310
- 311: TH 73
- 312: unbuilt extension of TH 42
- 313: TH 313
- 314: unbuilt extension of US 8
- 315: US 53/US 71
- 316: TH 316
- 317: TH 317
- 318: TH 318
- 319: TH 7
- 320: TH 246
- 321: TH 22
- 322: TH 322
- 323: TH 298
- 324: TH 324
- 324A: TH 175
- 325: TH 72
- 326: TH 326
- 327: I-335
- 328: TH 175
- 329: TH 329
- 330: TH 330
- 331: TH 44
- 332: TH 332
- 333: TH 118
- 334: TH 103, now US 52
- 335: TH 333
- 336: TH 336
- 337: TH 371 Bus.
- 338: TH 42
- 339: Stillwater Bridge
- 380: Shepard Road
- 381: unbuilt extension of Lafayette Freeway
- 382: not built
- 383: US 169
- 384: TH 62
- 385: TH 122
- 390: I-35, I-35E, I-535
- 391: I-90
- 392: I-94
- 393: I-494, I-694
- 394: I-35W
- 395: I-35
- 396: I-35
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