Talk:Lechites

Vend

"Vend" redirects here, apparently. But no explanation is given. The term "Vend" doesn't appear anywhere in the text. Is it even a singular or a plural term? Johncurrandavis (talk) 11:48, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorbs

Sorbs should be lechitic? Ridiculous.. anonymous — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.146.214.133 (talk) 23:10, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Subject of "Lekhitic" and "Lędzianie" stuff in Poland is full of wishful thinking lacking any critical analysis from the side of authors pushing terms "Lechici" i "Lędzianie" as supposed historical [and strictly identyfying an ethnic group] terms that were used in times predating the formation of early Poland during first few known historic rulers of Piast dynasty. The problem with that narrative is that there is no actual evidence that any of these terms meant an exact easy to pinpoint ethnic group at the time. Most of mentions of these terms in chronicles could be just cases of using a very generic term of Slavic origin to describe population of FEW DIFFERENT places within lands inhabited by Slavs. Some of these places are parts of Czechia and Slovakia and there is no known relation of historic Slavic groups living there to modern Poles - rendering validity of attempts at equating "Lędzianie" with "Poles" dubious. Another problem is there is also no historic evidence to actually equate terms "Lędzianie" and "Lachy". "Lędzianie" as mentioned in historic chronicles seems to be most likely a vague term of Slavic origin used to describe population living on "lędy" (term that can be translated as plains, lowlands or even just lands). Compare with Polish term "górale" used to describe people living in the mountains - English analog would be "highlanders". There are many groups of Polish górals, but generic term "góral" is also used to refer people of any ethnic background living in the mountains. So one can ask - what is an actual factual basis for seeing term "Lędzianie" as referring to any well defined and concrete group of Slavs. We can just guess that some of them might have been ancestors of modern Poles, but some cases of term Lędzianie being used in chronicles seems to suggest that some of them had more to do with Czechs or even Slovaks. It's also possible that this term was also used toward some groups of Ruthenians of the era who shared proximity with Western Slavic tribes. So in other words there is more unknowns than actual historic facts about these terms and many conclusions that some professional and semi-professional Polish historians came to are too far fetched given existing known source materials. Mr Fantastic Knowledge (talk) 18:08, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Columns (3 or 2)

With 3 columns of {*{(Multicol-break)}*}, the text at "Lechitic group" overlaps the image Personifications of Sclavinia (...) bringing offerings to Otto III; from (...), at least for my FF-Browser. Changed. --Schwab7000 (talk) 13:41, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]