Talk:LeRoc

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Just a quick update on today's undo.

To write a word in all capitals (i.e. LEROC) wouldn't be a variant of the word. If that were so, people could easily bypass existing valid trademarks by just changing the case of random letters in the word! So I'm sorry, but I've had to undo the most recent update, because the reference didn't actually prove the trademark. Besides, the link was already on this discussion page - clearly showing that only the logos have a trademark registered against them - not the word itself. As can also been seen below, there has been some discussion with the IPO to ensure clarification of the trademark.

Should the article mention Billy's trademark? I personally don't think so. The trademark belongs to just one organisation and has been registered to promote that business, which is fair enough. However, there are hundreds of other modern jive classes, many of which also use the terms "LeRoc", "LEROC" or "Leroc" to describe the dance that they do. In my opinion, the Wikipedia article should be neutral, and show no bias to one particular class.

91.106.54.142 (talk) 12:48, 28 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

== Some background on the Trademark Issue ==

The contributor known as "Billyleroc" and "LEROC TM" is claiming that he has trademarked the word "LEROC". On examining the IPO records for that proposer, it would appear that his attempt to trademark the word was withdrawn, and replaced by a set of Logos. It is likely that this is due to the word "LeRoc" being a generic term for this form of Modern Jive dance. This term has been in existence since the early 80s, and is used in the name of many Modern Jive dance classes and organisations.

The list of Trademark applications is here: http://www.ipo.gov.uk/tm/t-find/t-find-adp?propnum=0890684001

On 20/02/2008, John Sweeney - an experienced Modern Jive dance teacher (http://www.modernjive.com/js.html), posted on the CerocScotland forum that he had e-mailed the IPO regarding asking, "Please could you clarify the meaning of the words: "Mark Text: LEROC" on that page?"

He received the following response:

"The protection provided is for the image that is on the register and for the goods and services listed.
The text is just clarifying the letters within the images. Regards John Hurley
Central Enquiry Unit Officer."

The IPO has confirmed that the word “LEROC” can not be registered as it is in common and general use within the trade.

The URL for this discussion is here: http://www.cerocscotland.com/forum/lets-talk-about-dance/15509-leroc-trademark-7.html however, the forum software may require that you need to register to see this content.

91.104.23.118 (talk) 21:06, 2 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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