Talk:Laundry detergent/Archives/2014

Greater history detail

This article needs a greater improvment on the history of detergants and where they came from.I'm putting a tag for it. -danieljackson-
Definately needs more here - e.g. what has happened since etc... -velvetsteph-

Why does it say nose candy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.58.225 (talk) 00:46, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

 soo stupid  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.186.175.90 (talk) 19:40, 25 September 2011 (UTC) 

Whats better?==

Can anyone tell whether liquid or powder is better between the two? -danieljackson- yes - this is now included, assuming better equals more cleaning performance (as opposed to other points) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.130.179 (talk) 20:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

ConsumerReports says both liquid and powders showed about the same performance, so it's just a matter of preference. Either pick and choose and test, or go for value...Cool name btw, SG1 FTW... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.87.141.54 (talk) 02:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

This is not really true. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.130.179 (talk) 20:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Why can't I get clean clothes with American washing powders?

What is the difference between German(maybe European) washing powders in comparsion to American powders? I was using Tide in US and have lots of problems getting clean clothes in comparison to Germany Ariel, Persil or Spee(e.g. blood spots remain). --84.185.170.191 (talk) 20:55, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

are you using the products in the same conditions. Machine type and water quality (hardness/temperature) can have a large impact on performace. US spec products are normally designed for top loading machines which use larger water quantities. The side loading machines in Europe require a different detergent design, particularly to avoid over foaming. The enzyme technology used in Tide and Ariel Europe should be similar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.221.103 (talk) 20:19, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Brands Category

Is "All" its own brand? Someone should talk about the history of laundry detergents.

Ph?

"For example, solid detergents usually contain sodium carbonate (soda ash) or sodium bicarbonate to maintain pH by neutralizing any acidic materials that may enter the wash water." The statement doesn't tell us why we would want to neutralize the PH for cleaning purposes. I'm just wondering how that affects the washing.

surface tension

Can someone add a section of how the diffrent typs of laundry detergant's effect on surface tensuin?

top loader vs front loader detergent

does anyone know the difference between detergents for front loader and top loader washing machines? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.76.15.213 (talk) 08:35, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

machines with front loading need a suds supressor in the formula, otherwise the machine overflows. Top loading machines are able to manage both with high suds and low suds formulas. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.128.65 (talk) 18:51, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

thank you :) - by 220.76.15.213 // 220.76.15.253 (talk) 14:52, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Detergents vs Stain Fighters vs Fabric Softeners v others

I think the term "laundry detergent" in wikipedia is defined too broadly. In common usage, laundry detergent refers to the main soap that is used to launder clothing. If someone asks what detergent you use, you don't answer "I use Shout Stain Remover" or "Snuggles Fabric Softener". It's something like "Tide", which can stand alone in cleaning clothes, or can be added onto with fabric softeners or stain removers or bleaches.

This can be especially confusing if someone is looking for these "main" detergents that are capable of cleaning clothes while standing alone. Oxiclean may hide stains, but it's not a soap that deals with regular grime and odor. Same with Biz. Biz ESPECIALLY needs to not have (detergent) next to it, because it doesn't hold with the vernacular use of "detergent".

I think under the category "cleaning products" there needs to be a new category called "laundry cleaning products" with a complete list of the items currently in "laundry detergents." Additionally, there should be categories under "laundry cleaning products" for "Fabric Softeners" and "Stain Removers" because of their chemical specialties. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keeneay (talk • contribs) 18:56, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure what to do with the soap nuts references. I have deleted them from the brands list - they are not a brand. I have placed a reference in format to 'soap substitute plants' - I wasnt sure whether soap nuts deserved to be singled out - perhaps they do because of more widespread use? I believe soap nuts are used extensively in some parts of the world such as India though not sure about this, but thought we should have an international perspective. They are not technically a washing powder- but then this article is all about washing liquids aswell (I would say that the term laundry detergent could refer to the whole group of laundy products, but I'm aware it has a specific definition in US engish) If pre-wash is included here, then I think it's appropriate to include them here as well.Halon8 (talk) 00:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

List of brands

Really is this necessary? wouldnt it be better to have these under the laundry detergent categoryHalon8 (talk) 00:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

External links

I've removed a couple of the more obviously inappropriate ones. I think the others might be better replaced by some internal links to pages such as Natural cleaning products or green cleaning - I dont think these pages are terribly good though at the moment.

I would have thought the chemistry in action link should be a reference for the composition section rather than an external link- I can't seem to open it at the moment though. Halon8 (talk) 00:29, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Much info deleted in old vandalism

Much of the information in this article has been deleted in old vandalism. Some day when I have time, I will try to restore it. Because much of the article was deleted, it looks like the links are not being used and seem excessive. They are actually sources for removed information.
H Padleckas (talk) 04:02, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Enzyme effect on cotton towels?

Can someone add information on this problem and the solution to it, to the Wikipedia article?

I've found that when using concentrated color-preserving biological liquid detergent to wash new cotton towels for the first time, whether Egyptian cotton or American Pima cotton, all the cotton fibres are changed from being soft and fluffy pre-wash to very hard, rough and stiff after washing at 40 degrees Celsius and leaving to dry in warm air. Is this normal? What is causing the towels to change so badly? Is it the enzymes in biological liquid, the temperature of the water, or something else? Would using a concentrated non-biological liquid detergent produce a better result? Should liquid detergents be avoided completely, whether biological or non-biological? Would it make any difference if they were washed at 30 degrees Celsius or cold washed? W738 (talk) 14:00, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Merger proposal

The article detergent is about laundry detergent with greater general and historical detail. The topic is sufficiently important that readers should be treated to a good overview of the ingredients, history, and environmental consequences. The more technical details are (or should be/will eventually be) in surfactant. Comments welcome.--Smokefoot (talk) 15:39, 24 October 2010 (UTC) I take that back....The article on detergent should probably be fairly general and survey the various chemical forms of detergents (cationic, anionic and neutral) whereas this article should focus on the chemical constituents of laundry detergents, how they work, and the impact of laundry detergents on various aspects of everyday life, as well as the environment. I propose to interchange the contents, virtually, of laundry detergent and detergent.--Smokefoot (talk) 19:23, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

Most detergent is delivered in powdered form - is this true worldwide?

Hello,

I mostly only see liquid laundry detergent for sale. Does the powdered form prevail worldwide? Aren't there many parts of the world that use native means to wash clothes and not the commercial products popular in the western world (e.g. North America and Europe?) Thanks, Parabolooidal (talk) 14:42, 7 April 2014 (UTC)